It is not just William Wright who thinks the BBC employees lean tothe political left in their voting preference

Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sports
has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on Saturday,
December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-interview-james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

UNQUOTE

Does it matter which party BBC employees vote for provided that their
political allegiance in no way affects their work?

QUOTE

"I think the BBC does recognise that on certain very totemic issues of
the last decade it was out of step with where the public are, whether
it was on Europe, on immigration or our approach to Northern Ireland."

UNQUOTE

Is it not right that a public service broadcaster should be offering
alternative viewpoints to those adopted by the public on very totemic issues?

So...

"J G Miller" wrote in message
...
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sports
has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on Saturday,
December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-interview-james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

PDS So Conservatives aren't "creative types" - is that a surprise to anyone
;-) ?


UNQUOTE

Does it matter which party BBC employees vote for provided that their
political allegiance in no way affects their work?

QUOTE

"I think the BBC does recognise that on certain very totemic issues of
the last decade it was out of step with where the public are, whether
it was on Europe, on immigration or our approach to Northern Ireland."

UNQUOTE

Is it not right that a public service broadcaster should be offering
alternative viewpoints to those adopted by the public on very totemic
issues?

A PSB should always be providing "devil's advocate" arguments to either side
of the public position.

Is it not right that a public service broadcaster should be offering
alternative viewpoints to those adopted by the public on very totemic
issues?

I have no problem with the BBC "offering alternative viewpoints". I do
with its attempts to impose its view and to dismiss, ridicule or ignore
other views.

A PSB should always be providing "devil's advocate" arguments to
either side of the public position.

Not just "devil's advocate" please : there's already too much bias in
the BBC for religions and against atheists and secularists
--
Robin
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In article ,
Paul D Smith wrote:
So...

"J G Miller" wrote in message
...
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sports
has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on Saturday,
December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-interview-james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

I wonder how close the BBC employees are in this respect to the general
population now. Maybe they are more 'representative' than the Minister
finds comfortable. Although he may be happier about this nowdays than Nick
'Pinnochio' Clegg. :-) Perhaps the BBC could check and point out that the
BBC are a more accurate representation of the country than the Minister or
his quasi (is that how you spell it?) government.

Might cheer up Nick to have the chance to say, "If you think that's bad,
what about when you compare how many would vote for *me* rather than
*anyone* else in sight!" ;-

I'm awaiting the split. Was originally Liberals and SDP. Now about to
separate into Liberals and Liars.

Still, I guess he feels any old twaddle will do if it may help intimidate
anyone who might otherwise dare to point out the failings of the current
government. Don't mention Vodaphone, or bankers escaping from any sign of
being involved in recent events, or...

PDS So Conservatives aren't "creative types" - is that a surprise to anyone
;-) ?

ahem You may have left out "creative accounting" and "creative
tax-dodging" from that. Maybe those are the areas where their "creativity"
manifests... :-)

BTW shouldn't the title of this thread start "TOT"? I can see that the BBC
do produce 'tv', but I'm not sure tech-digital is right here. Maybe we
should find out how many people at the 'outsourced providers of
engineering' vote for who? Would be more on-topic. I think we should be
told. 8-]

Have fun. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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On 13/12/2010 14:58, J G Miller wrote:
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sports
has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on Saturday,
December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-interview-james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

UNQUOTE

Does it matter which party BBC employees vote for provided that their
political allegiance in no way affects their work?

QUOTE

"I think the BBC does recognise that on certain very totemic issues of
the last decade it was out of step with where the public are, whether
it was on Europe, on immigration or our approach to Northern Ireland."

UNQUOTE

Is it not right that a public service broadcaster should be offering
alternative viewpoints to those adopted by the public on very totemic issues?

Having worked for the BBC for a long time, I found most of the people I
came into contact with were disinterested in politics, or at least party
politics. The management, however, came across as somewhat to the right
of Thatcher. Personally, I voted for whomever I thought would do their
best for the constituency I lived in at the time, irrespective of party.

Phil

J G Miller wrote:
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sports
has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on Saturday,
December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-interview-james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

UNQUOTE

Just like the rest of the country, then.


Does it matter which party BBC employees vote for provided that their
political allegiance in no way affects their work?

QUOTE

"I think the BBC does recognise that on certain very totemic issues of
the last decade it was out of step with where the public are, whether
it was on Europe, on immigration or our approach to Northern Ireland."

UNQUOTE

Is it not right that a public service broadcaster should be offering
alternative viewpoints to those adopted by the public on very totemic issues?

The BBC approach is generally to use such
fire-prevention techniques as avoiding inflammatory
language or starving firebrand politicians of the
"oxygen of publicity". What does Mr Hunt want - Fox News?

The way the Corporation has been sucking up to the
Coalition recently, they've not been giving him any
real cause to complain.

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:58:21 +0000, J G Miller wrote:

Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and
Sports has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on
Saturday, December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2...unt-interview-
james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

UNQUOTE

Does it matter which party BBC employees vote for provided that their
political allegiance in no way affects their work?

Rather more people in the general population vote Labour or Liberal
Democrat than vote Conservative. It's only that the Conservatives got
more votes and seats than Labour and the Lib Dems went into coalition
with them.

If this is the sort of analysis characteristic of Mister *unt, it doesn't
say much for him!

--
Steve Hayes, South Wales, UK - remove colours from address

In article ,
J G Miller wrote:
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sports
has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on Saturday,
December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-interview-james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

He should try chatting to a sparks or two. Etc. The ones he won't meet in
hospitality.

--
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
J G Miller wrote:
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sports
has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on Saturday,
December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-interview-james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

He should try chatting to a sparks or two. Etc. The ones he won't meet in
hospitality.

Yes, but this is about the BBC's innate left wing bias, and that is in
the gift of the 'creatives'. Examples of this bias abound. Tonight, for
instance, near the beginning of The One Show, there was an item about
education funding. If anyone doubts that the BBC has left wing bias, I
suggest you watch it on Iplayer. Take in the general tone of the piece,
and time the different segments -- the interview with the government
minister versus all the other material (all of which strongly criticised
the government's position). It was about three to one I think. And take
note of the fact that they happened by pure chance to use as an example
a waif-like student who had recently lost her mother to breast cancer
(irrelevant except to tug at the heart strings).

Bill

"Robin" wrote in message
...

Is it not right that a public service broadcaster should be offering
alternative viewpoints to those adopted by the public on very totemic
issues?

I have no problem with the BBC "offering alternative viewpoints". I do
with its attempts to impose its view and to dismiss, ridicule or ignore
other views.

A PSB should always be providing "devil's advocate" arguments to
either side of the public position.

Not just "devil's advocate" please : there's already too much bias in the
BBC for religions and against atheists and secularists

Robin - I'm both an atheist and secularist but I see no reason to "reinvent
the wheel" to come up with a term for "presenting a deliberately contrary
argument" when a short, readily understood phrase exists already. Nor do I
care if someone call my female postal delivery agent a "postman". It's all
a matter of how such things are perceived, and the label rarely changes
that.

Paul DS.