BBC1 HD - 5 minutes of caption during regional news

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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:06:51 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
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Well they could broadcast a selection of their commercials for upcoming
programs, and other sundry items, for example plugs for local radio or
maybe
some of the less known stuff. No imagination.
Brian

Please NO!!
There are far too many of these already between (and increasingly
within) BBC programmes.

Its not just freesat, BBC1 HD on freeview is the same

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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:06:51 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
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Well they could broadcast a selection of their commercials for upcoming
programs, and other sundry items, for example plugs for local radio or
maybe
some of the less known stuff. No imagination.
Brian

Please NO!!
There are far too many of these already between (and increasingly
within) BBC programmes.

Its not just freesat, BBC1 HD on freeview is the same


Yes that's what I can't understand, I receive BBC1 HD/SD from Mendip, so why
is it not possible to simply upscale local programming and insert it into
the HD transmission at the transmitter?

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Well they could broadcast a selection of their commercials for upcoming
programs, and other sundry items, for example plugs for local radio

If they can't show regional news, how can they show regional, i.e local
radio, commercials ...?

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maybe some of the less known stuff. No imagination.
Brian

...or bring back the potter's wheel etc. Nothing like a good intermission!


That's more like it ...!
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:06:51 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Well they could broadcast a selection of their commercials for upcoming
programs, and other sundry items, for example plugs for local radio or
maybe
some of the less known stuff. No imagination.
Brian

Please NO!!
There are far too many of these already between (and increasingly
within) BBC programmes.

Its not just freesat, BBC1 HD on freeview is the same


Yes that's what I can't understand, I receive BBC1 HD/SD from Mendip, so
why is it not possible to simply upscale local programming and insert it
into the HD transmission at the transmitter?

1. the transmitters are not BBC property, so putting extra equipment is
not a simple matter

2. there will be costs of equipment, too.

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On 16/11/2010 09:47, Rick wrote:
........... I receive BBC1 HD/SD from Mendip, so
why is it not possible to simply upscale local programming and insert it
into the HD transmission at the transmitter?



Huge cost! Upscalers (in duplicate) plus extra switching at the two
Centralised coding and Mux sites. Plus the BBC don't do upscaling,
they'll budget for HD regional output coders.

Richard

Victor Delta wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Well they could broadcast a selection of their commercials for
upcoming programs, and other sundry items, for example plugs for local
radio or maybe some of the less known stuff. No imagination.
Brian

...or bring back the potter's wheel etc. Nothing like a good intermission!


It would have to be re-shot in HD. The original might
have a few artefacts.

Victor Delta wrote:
Visited a family member today who has Freesat, and saw his BBC1 HD
channel. Everything looked pretty impressive until just after the
national evening news bulletin when, to my amazement, we were presented
with 5 minutes of boring caption - with a countdown timer - in the slot
of the regional news bulletins. I couldn't believe it, and would imagine
a huge chunk of the audience must have turned to another channel at this
point (if only BBC1 non-HD).

I presume this happens because the Freesat BBC1 HD signal covers the
whole country so regional opt outs are not possible. However, why
doesn't Freesat broadcast, say, the London regional news bulletin so
that at least something is transmitted. It might not satisfy everyone
but at least the HD viewers in one part of the country would get a
programme of interest...?

Or am I missing something here?

V

PS I don't live in the London area!

A fairer alternative would be to rotate around the
regions. "It's Wednesday, so we must be in..."

I can imagine the wrong news would utterly confuse
many viewers, who would then ring up to complain. It
could keep Points of View busy for weeks.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:06:26 +0000, Jim wrote:

...or bring back the potter's wheel etc. Nothing like a good intermission!


It would have to be re-shot in HD. The original might
have a few artefacts.


Look, I live in the (used to be) Potteries. You'd have to shoot it in
bloody Indonesia these days.
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On 16/11/2010 10:44, charles wrote:
1. the transmitters are not BBC property, so putting extra equipment is
not a simple matter

It's just a data stream to the txrs, from the CCM sites? But the extra
gear there will be a huge cost. But probably being discussed.

Richard

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:25:20 +0000, Peter Duncanson
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:41:21 +0000, Scott
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I suspect this is a short term position and that BBC1 HD will become
'regionalised' at some stage.

That would require a large number of additional HD channels. There are
18 BBC1 regions. They are in the Freesat channel list from Ch 950
(London) to Ch 967 (EYrks&L).

The BBC seem to be more optimistic than you a

"BBC One HD cannot at the moment offer different programmes for
different parts of the UK. This means it cannot broadcast the daily
news bulletins for individual parts of the UK, or the programmes made
for viewers in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland which are shown
during the evening in those nations.

"HD programmes shown on BBC One Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland
will be available on BBC HD. And all programming for different parts
of the UK continues to be available on BBC One in standard definition.
Over time we hope to be able to deliver all the versions of BBC One
that exist in standard definition in HD."