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Old November 12th 10, 08:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nick Le Lievre
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Just been round to me mams she has a Sky HD box the below channels breakup;

188 True Ent
321 True Movies 1
322 True Movies 2
365 Chart Show TV
366 The Vault
367 Flava
372 Bliss
374 Scuzz
376 DanceNationTV
382 NME TV
616 POP
617 Tiny POP
625 Tiny POP +1
626 POPGirl
627 Kix!
629 POPGirl +1

Signal is at 100% Quality at 80% on all the above channels, because there
are so few is it dish alignment or something else.

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Old November 13th 10, 12:25 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
Just been round to me mams she has a Sky HD box the below channels breakup;

188 True Ent
321 True Movies 1
322 True Movies 2
365 Chart Show TV
366 The Vault
367 Flava
372 Bliss
374 Scuzz
376 DanceNationTV
382 NME TV
616 POP
617 Tiny POP
625 Tiny POP +1
626 POPGirl
627 Kix!
629 POPGirl +1

Signal is at 100% Quality at 80% on all the above channels, because
there are so few is it dish alignment or something else.

Someone else who has to do with Sky boxes than me might correct me here,
but I was under the impression that the quality and strength reading
does not relate specifically to the channel the box had been on before
the menu button had been pressed.
It is quite normal for Sky boxes to display impressive quality and
strength readings, yet have missing channels. All the channels you list
except one are on the same transponder, which suggests any or all of the
following, assuming you have given a full list:
Faulty receiver (unlikely because if it was that you'd be reporting
channels on the same satellite IF but other muxes)
Terrestrial microwave interference (unlikely because if it was that
you'd probably be reporting channels on the same satellite IF but other
muxes)
Faulty LNB. I had a problem job a few weeks ago which turned out to be
the LNB's noise peaking on a particular frequency, and this was on one
of the four modes only.

Bill
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Old November 13th 10, 04:32 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
j r powell[_5_]
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...

Someone else who has to do with Sky boxes than me might correct me here,
but I was under the impression that the quality and strength reading does
not relate specifically to the channel the box had been on before the menu
button had been pressed.


Not the case with Sky+HD boxes. One of the two sets of strength/quality
meters will show measurements for the currently-selected channel's
transponder.

Funny how none of Bill's fictional customers seem to have Sky TV, innit
(prior to him reading this of course).

jamie.
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Old November 13th 10, 12:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nick Le Lievre
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its opinion
on these channels..

grin


Yeah they are ****e that`s why we have not bothered to do anything about it
for the last 2-3 years.

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Old November 13th 10, 01:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its
opinion on these channels..

grin


Yeah they are ****e that`s why we have not bothered to do anything about
it for the last 2-3 years.


Going back to your own flat Nick, this whole issue of you paying for a
connection astonished most of us on here. However, I have now (this
morning) heard of a similar situation elsewhere. An installer friend
told me the following: He had been asked by a resident on a private
block of flats to fit a second downlead. There was a grey wallbox near
the communal dish, and the understanding the resident had was that since
they had all clubbed together for the dish and the box and its contents
they could connect to it as they wished. He had contacted the installer,
who had given every resident a leaflet with contact details etc, to be
told that the price for a second feed was £340 + VAT. He then rung a
different installer, the one who was later to ring me. He went round
yesterday and had a look, having given a rough figure of £130 + VAT, and
found that the box was locked. He rung the phone number on the
resident's leaflet to be told that no-one was allowed to connect to the
box but them, and if he did so they would sue him. And that's where it
stands at the moment. The resident will be talking to the RA over the
weekend to establish for certain the terms of the dish and wallbox
installation. If it turns out that the RA has entered into an agreement
whereby the installer 'owns' the spare outputs (if indeed there are any
in the box) I guess they've been had. I think it's more likely though
that the original installer's response was a bluff. We shall see.

Bill
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Old November 13th 10, 01:25 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
tony sayer
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In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus
Nick Le Lievre wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its
opinion on these channels..

grin


Yeah they are ****e that`s why we have not bothered to do anything about
it for the last 2-3 years.


Going back to your own flat Nick, this whole issue of you paying for a
connection astonished most of us on here. However, I have now (this
morning) heard of a similar situation elsewhere. An installer friend
told me the following: He had been asked by a resident on a private
block of flats to fit a second downlead. There was a grey wallbox near
the communal dish, and the understanding the resident had was that since
they had all clubbed together for the dish and the box and its contents
they could connect to it as they wished. He had contacted the installer,
who had given every resident a leaflet with contact details etc, to be
told that the price for a second feed was £340 + VAT. He then rung a
different installer, the one who was later to ring me. He went round
yesterday and had a look, having given a rough figure of £130 + VAT, and
found that the box was locked. He rung the phone number on the
resident's leaflet to be told that no-one was allowed to connect to the
box but them, and if he did so they would sue him. And that's where it
stands at the moment. The resident will be talking to the RA over the
weekend to establish for certain the terms of the dish and wallbox
installation. If it turns out that the RA has entered into an agreement
whereby the installer 'owns' the spare outputs (if indeed there are any
in the box) I guess they've been had. I think it's more likely though
that the original installer's response was a bluff. We shall see.

Bill


Thats why I keep a pair of bolt croppers and an angle grinder in the car
for "access problem" situations like those...
--
Tony Sayer

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Old November 13th 10, 01:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter Duncanson
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:25:00 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus
Nick Le Lievre wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its
opinion on these channels..

grin

Yeah they are ****e that`s why we have not bothered to do anything about
it for the last 2-3 years.


Going back to your own flat Nick, this whole issue of you paying for a
connection astonished most of us on here. However, I have now (this
morning) heard of a similar situation elsewhere. An installer friend
told me the following: He had been asked by a resident on a private
block of flats to fit a second downlead. There was a grey wallbox near
the communal dish, and the understanding the resident had was that since
they had all clubbed together for the dish and the box and its contents
they could connect to it as they wished. He had contacted the installer,
who had given every resident a leaflet with contact details etc, to be
told that the price for a second feed was £340 + VAT. He then rung a
different installer, the one who was later to ring me. He went round
yesterday and had a look, having given a rough figure of £130 + VAT, and
found that the box was locked. He rung the phone number on the
resident's leaflet to be told that no-one was allowed to connect to the
box but them, and if he did so they would sue him. And that's where it
stands at the moment. The resident will be talking to the RA over the
weekend to establish for certain the terms of the dish and wallbox
installation. If it turns out that the RA has entered into an agreement
whereby the installer 'owns' the spare outputs (if indeed there are any
in the box) I guess they've been had. I think it's more likely though
that the original installer's response was a bluff. We shall see.

Bill


Thats why I keep a pair of bolt croppers and an angle grinder in the car
for "access problem" situations like those...


Now what's that legal phrase?
"Going equipped for crime" I think. ;-)

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)
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Old November 13th 10, 03:52 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian[_3_]
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tony sayer wrote:

Thats why I keep a pair of bolt croppers and an angle grinder in the car
for "access problem" situations like those...


Helps when you get wheel clamped too.

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Adrian
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Old November 13th 10, 05:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill
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In message , tony sayer
writes

Thats why I keep a pair of bolt croppers and an angle grinder in the car
for "access problem" situations like those...


I have a set of hydraulic ones I carry, not been stumped yet!
--
Bill
( A different one )
 




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