BBC to reduce DSat red button service to match Freeview

They really are taking the **** with their "Platform Neutral" stance
now...

"During the course of this review, BBC management has stated its plans
to reduce the service’s use of capacity on the digital satellite and
cable platforms after the 2012 Olympics, to bring it closer to its
current usage on the digital terrestrial platform. This should result
in distribution cost savings to the BBC. We agree with this proposed
course of action, and we would expect BBC Red Button to reduce its
distribution costs by providing a more consistent level of service
across different digital TV platforms. Implementation date: 2012."

from
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets...tton_final.pdf

I wonder if there will be any distribution cost savings at all? Are
they really going to give up a transponder? Or maybe they'll let out
the space. Like they do all the other null packets they send. (!)

Here's an alternative idea for them: how about maximising the use and
value of these streams by finally letting Freesat viewers access them
all(!), giving them an EPG entry, and letting people PVR them! Oh, and
using the downtime for something useful.

Cheers,
David.

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 05:31:33 -0800 (PST),
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wrote:

Here's an alternative idea for them: how about maximising the use and
value of these streams by finally letting Freesat viewers access them
all(!), giving them an EPG entry, and letting people PVR them! Oh, and
using the downtime for something useful.

That won't sell any Freeview boxes, now will it?

Scaling back the service after 2012 is probably just something they
were planning to do anyway. "Interactive Television" was more of a fad
than a long-term venture.
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On Friday, November 12th, 2010 at 14:58:25h +0000, Zero Tolerance wrote:

"Interactive Television" was more of a fad than a long-term venture.

It was something to generate more hype to get people interested in
getting equipped for DSO. Once DSO is achieved, ie after the Olympics 2012,
lo and behold, it is time for the BBC to scale it back and reduce it
to almost nothing.

There is also the possibility that once everybody is "Freeview" enabled,
more and more of what is now Freeview content will become Payview.

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: Here's an alternative idea for them: how about maximising
: the use and value of these streams by finally letting Freesat
: viewers access them all(!), giving them an EPG entry, and
: letting people PVR them! Oh, and using the downtime for
: something useful.


They can't do that, simply, as each channel would then constitute
an extra channel which would then require formal approval.
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Regards, Jerry.

wrote in message
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets...tton_final.pdf


I'm getting Page Not Found.
Regards
David

On Nov 12, 4:49*pm, "Jerry" wrote:
wrote in message

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snip
: Here's an alternative idea for them: how about maximising
: the use and value of these streams by finally letting Freesat
: viewers access them all(!), giving them an EPG entry, and
: letting people PVR them! Oh, and using the downtime for
: something useful.

They can't do that, simply, as each channel would then constitute
an extra channel which would then require formal approval.

Yes, that is the politics behind it. I was talking about common
sense! ;-)

Cheers,
David

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:19:46 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

It was something to generate more hype to get people interested in
getting equipped for DSO.

It was something the BBC saw Sky doing and they couldn't wait to do it
themselves. I think even Sky have given up on it now.

There is also the possibility that once everybody is "Freeview" enabled,
more and more of what is now Freeview content will become Payview.

No realistic possibility that I can see, though.
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On Friday, November 12th, 2010 at 17:45:41h +0000, Zero Tolerance wrote:

No realistic possibility that I can see, though.

So the fact that OfCon changed the licencing conditions of the "Freeview"
multiplexes B, C, and D to remove the "free to air" only restriction, ie
allow subscription content did not create a realistic possibility?

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.UK/consultations/paytv/

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:10:41 -0000, "David"
wrote:



wrote in message
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets...tton_final.pdf


I'm getting Page Not Found.

Strange. Perhaps the url is being truncated.

Try this:
http://tinyurl.com/35ll9rn

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

I've never understood the red button, as as far as I can see, its just
another stream of data ie another channel, and its only used as and when.
Why not do as they always did and say, ch xx for whatever. Red button is
njust a bit of bull**** really. They want to use less paid for bandwidth,
end of story.

Brian

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wrote in message
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They really are taking the **** with their "Platform Neutral" stance
now...

"During the course of this review, BBC management has stated its plans
to reduce the service’s use of capacity on the digital satellite and
cable platforms after the 2012 Olympics, to bring it closer to its
current usage on the digital terrestrial platform. This should result
in distribution cost savings to the BBC. We agree with this proposed
course of action, and we would expect BBC Red Button to reduce its
distribution costs by providing a more consistent level of service
across different digital TV platforms. Implementation date: 2012."

from
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets...tton_final.pdf

I wonder if there will be any distribution cost savings at all? Are
they really going to give up a transponder? Or maybe they'll let out
the space. Like they do all the other null packets they send. (!)

Here's an alternative idea for them: how about maximising the use and
value of these streams by finally letting Freesat viewers access them
all(!), giving them an EPG entry, and letting people PVR them! Oh, and
using the downtime for something useful.

Cheers,
David.