BBC1 HD

Mike Henry wrote:

Also: "Ongoing discussion on right size for #bbc one hd DOG. Remains to be
seen whether principle or pragmatism win out"
(https://twitter.com/naglerhd)

WTF does she mean by that? Which one out of "principle or pragmatism"
means "NO DOG AT ALL"? It's almost phrased as if to say "in principle I
want a 1/4 screen size solid animated DOG but we might have to be
pragmatic and break them in gently with an 1/8 screen size transparent
DOG".

Why wasn't it "Ongoing discussion on #bbc one hd DOG or no DOG. Remains to
be seen whether marketing or licence-fee-paying viewers win out"...

She's a medja marketing person, they're jumpered up completely differently to
us normal human beings.


--
Mark
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www.paras.org.uk

Does it have DOG **** on it?

Yes it will.

Oh, for ****'s sake! What is wrong with those stupid people at the
BBC?

SteveT

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:40 +0100, "David"
wrote:



"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now
showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag.

Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected
transmitters only?

Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite
in my reply.
Regards
David

Any idea when the new channel will appear on the Freeview EPG? I
believe it is due to launch on Wednesday.

In message , Scott
writes
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:40 +0100, "David"
wrote:



"Scott" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now
showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag.

Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected
transmitters only?

Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite
in my reply.
Regards
David

Any idea when the new channel will appear on the Freeview EPG? I
believe it is due to launch on Wednesday.

No, but it has appeared in the Non-Freesat epg, on 5435,

showing info about launch, Nov 3rd, and channels for BBC HD,

" Freesat 109, Freeview 54, Sky 169 and Virgin Media 187".

This may suggest that BBC 1 HD will be on Freesat 108 and Freeview
channel 50.
--
Ian

On 29 Oct, 19:09, Mark Carver wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:
Also: "Ongoing discussion on right size for #bbc one hd DOG. Remains to be
seen whether principle or pragmatism win out"
(https://twitter.com/naglerhd)

WTF does she mean by that? Which one out of "principle or pragmatism"
means "NO DOG AT ALL"? It's almost phrased as if to say "in principle I
want a 1/4 screen size solid animated DOG but we might have to be
pragmatic and break them in gently with an 1/8 screen size transparent
DOG".

Why wasn't it "Ongoing discussion on #bbc one hd DOG or no DOG. Remains to
be seen whether marketing or licence-fee-paying viewers win out"...

She's a medja marketing person, they're jumpered up completely differently to
us normal human beings.

It's spread far further than that. I've had someone from BBC R&D talk
to me very seriously about why DOGs are essential.

You've got to admit: he'll probably get on very well being able to toe
the party line and talk complete BS like that.

To be fair, the argument wasn't BS. It went like this: BBC funding is
always under threat. Lots of viewers claim to "never watch the BBC",
which undermines the license fee. Whereas the truth is that most of
these viewers do watch the BBC, but they forget they watch it, or
don't know they're watching the BBC when they are. So if we put our
logo on all the channels, they can't forget, and will realise what
good value for money they're getting.

My answer was we should go back to the 1930s, where such stupid people
knew to keep their mouths shut, no one was interested in their
opinions, and no one would take any notice of what they said. Rather
than the 21st century attitude of running things to cater for the
lowest common denominator, and ignoring the demands of anything better/
higher.

I didn't put it quite like that, but his response was basically that
if the BBC did that, then many people would go and watch ITV and/or
Sky, and there'd be no publicly funded BBC left. A kind of "we have to
half wreck it ourselves to stop someone else coming along and
annihilating it completely" argument.

Cheers,
David.

Virgin Media has a place-holder page on ch187 on cable.

Guy

On 31/10/2010 13:47, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:40 +0100,
wrote:



wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill
wrote:

Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now
showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag.

Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected
transmitters only?

Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite
in my reply.
Regards
David

Any idea when the new channel will appear on the Freeview EPG? I
believe it is due to launch on Wednesday.

"Bigguy2010" wrote in message
...
Virgin Media has a place-holder page on ch187 on cable.


Nothing on my Freesat on 109, is Freesat the only platform without any
tests/promotions?
Will Freesat sets need a reset or rescan?
(Or is it just Freesat being behind again.)
Regards
David
PS the caption my Freesat set on Other Channels does say on Freesat 109.

Just had a look at the Freesat web site.

"Important news for freesat customers
You can expect to see BBC One HD added to the EPG at Channel 108 from 7pm
onwards on Wednesday 3rd November. BBC HD channel will move to Channel 109.
These changes will update automatically on freesat boxes and TVs.

To prompt these changes after 7pm, put your box or TV into standby for one
minute, and then turn it back on. The EPG will then update. Customers with
Humax boxes and LG TVs will need to accept the new channel prompt."

(Now not my spelling mistakes and bad English I just cut and pasted.)

I'm not too clear if they mean it all automatic or part automatic or if you
watching 108 at the time or another station, or not got TV/box on.

Regards
David

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:14:53 -0000, "David" wrote:



Just had a look at the Freesat web site.

"Important news for freesat customers
You can expect to see BBC One HD added to the EPG at Channel 108 from 7pm
onwards on Wednesday 3rd November. BBC HD channel will move to Channel 109.
These changes will update automatically on freesat boxes and TVs.

To prompt these changes after 7pm, put your box or TV into standby for one
minute, and then turn it back on. The EPG will then update. Customers with
Humax boxes and LG TVs will need to accept the new channel prompt."

(Now not my spelling mistakes and bad English I just cut and pasted.)
BBC One HD is currently visible on a Humax Freesat box in "non-Freesat"
mode. The picture is a red version of the BBC interprogramme stuff
(swimmers moving in a circle, dogs weaving in and out of posts,
helicopter taking off from a circular helipad, etc.) The text says "BBC
One HD will be launching here with the One Show on 3 November". Apart
from that there is the BBC One logo centre-screen and the channel
numbers on Freesat, Freeview, Sky and Virgin Media.


I'm not too clear if they mean it all automatic or part automatic or if you
watching 108 at the time or another station, or not got TV/box on.

What I'm expecting with a Humax box is to switch it into standby for one
minute at or after 7pm, bring it out of standby, it will say that
channels may have changed and will offer to do a scan, if I say yes or
leave the message to time out it will do an update scan which will make
the necessary changes.

It won't matter what channel it was on before putting it into standby.

I hope the "geniuses" in the BBC have thought this through properly. It
seem to me that there will be a definite possibility of people missing
the first few minutes of the One Show while their STBs or TVs do the
update. I don't watch the One Show so that won't worry me.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Nov


I hope the "geniuses" in the BBC have thought this through properly.

Well I do not think they have!

I just can't understand why 109 is not doing BBC HD now, yes a duplicate of
108, so on Wednesday we have nothing to do with continuing with BBC HD on
one channel at least and we have the assurance that 109 is ok.
Regards
David