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Old October 28th 10, 10:41 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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On 28/10/2010 09:04, WCZ wrote:

My 9200T recorded the Chilean Mine doc last night. Maybe for some reason
the start recording signals weren't sent from your transmitter.

Was it set to "Accurate Record", and what Transmitter are you on, WCZ?

Richard
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Old October 28th 10, 10:47 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Dickie Mint wrote:
Set the Humax 9200T to record :-

itv1 2000 - 2200 Poirot
ch 4 2000 - 2100 Chilean Mine Documentary

Both failed to start at 2000, and both only started recording at 2058.

Now is this a new Humax bug, or a weird mux fault where the SI data for
programme start was missed?

Anyone else?


When did you set the schedules? I find my 9200T fails
more often than not when the recording is scheduled
too close to the programme starting time - maybe
within 1 hour.
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Old October 28th 10, 11:02 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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On 28/10/2010 09:47, Jim wrote:
Dickie Mint wrote:
Set the Humax 9200T to record :-

itv1 2000 - 2200 Poirot
ch 4 2000 - 2100 Chilean Mine Documentary

Both failed to start at 2000, and both only started recording at 2058.

Now is this a new Humax bug, or a weird mux fault where the SI data
for programme start was missed?

Anyone else?


When did you set the schedules? I find my 9200T fails more often than
not when the recording is scheduled too close to the programme starting
time - maybe within 1 hour.


Some days before. And the weird thing was both itv1 & ch 4 recording
did start - at 2058.
I had been told my Humax that the 9200T only uses the toggle in the
"Running Status Flag" (my terminology!), but it must either use
something else or the itv mux rest all it's RSF toggles at 2058!!

From the replies to this thread it looks like the itv mux may have had
a problem in some parts of the country.

Richard
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Old October 28th 10, 11:53 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default itv/ch4 Mux programme start fault?

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:32:22 +0100, Dickie Mint wrote:

On 27/10/2010 21:45, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:14:24 +0100, Dickie Mint wrote:

Set the Humax 9200T to record :-

itv1 2000 - 2200 Poirot
ch 4 2000 - 2100 Chilean Mine Documentary

Both failed to start at 2000, and both only started recording at 2058.

Now is this a new Humax bug, or a weird mux fault where the SI data
for programme start was missed?

Anyone else?

Richard


Our TVonics box failed to start as programmed for Poirot at 20:00. A
couple of minutes after the start time, I spotted that the red light
wasn't on so I started it manually.



What Transmitter are you on, Steve? And is the box a "Accurate Record"
type? i.e. you just select the programme in the EPG?

Richard


It was Wenvoe. I'd selected the program in the EPG and pressed record but
don't know whether that just sets a timer or whether it relies on some
variety of PDC signal. In view of the shared failure, it's presumably the
latter.

In general, the TVonics box "just works" but it fell over this time.
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Old October 28th 10, 12:14 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 27/10/2010 21:14, Dickie Mint wrote:
Set the Humax 9200T to record :-

itv1 2000 - 2200 Poirot
ch 4 2000 - 2100 Chilean Mine Documentary

Both failed to start at 2000, and both only started recording at 2058.

Now is this a new Humax bug, or a weird mux fault where the SI data for
programme start was missed?

Anyone else?

Richard


Chilean Mine Doc recorded ok on 9200T set to accurate record (Midhurst).
Well, started a few seconds late, but that's not unusual Channel 4 (and
5)...

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Old October 28th 10, 02:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Mark Carver wrote:
Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:57:53 +0100, Bill Wright


My cheapo 'Alba' DTT box recorded the Chilian thing all right.

Ah, but.

Does it record strictly by the start and end times or does it use the
over-the-air "start signal"?


The model Bill has, does, or should, react to the broadcaster's
'dynamic' start/stop sigjnals.


Yes, and it missed the last 30 secs of the National Grid programme.

Bill
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Old October 29th 10, 09:42 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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On 28/10/2010 13:49, Bill Wright wrote:

Yes, and it missed the last 30 secs of the National Grid programme.


D*mn, didn't check that and had forgotten it, but I had set that to
record and it didn't!

Richard
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Old October 29th 10, 09:45 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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On 28/10/2010 11:14, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 27/10/2010 21:14, Dickie Mint wrote:
Set the Humax 9200T to record :-

itv1 2000 - 2200 Poirot
ch 4 2000 - 2100 Chilean Mine Documentary

Both failed to start at 2000, and both only started recording at 2058.

Now is this a new Humax bug, or a weird mux fault where the SI data for
programme start was missed?

Anyone else?

Richard


Chilean Mine Doc recorded ok on 9200T set to accurate record (Midhurst).
Well, started a few seconds late, but that's not unusual Channel 4 (and
5)...

Or the Humax. ALL our recordings, whatever the channel, are usually
started late. And, due to the beeb in particular insisting on
overrunning, misses the end of a lot too.

Now if someone could recommend a PVR that virtually always works
properly on "Accurate Record"....

Richard
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Old October 29th 10, 10:27 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default itv/ch4 Mux programme start fault?

In article , Dickie Mint wrote:
Or the Humax. ALL our recordings, whatever the channel, are usually
started late. And, due to the beeb in particular insisting on
overrunning, misses the end of a lot too.


Can't you add padding to the times? Even if the machine doesn't do this
automatically, it should be a simple matter to adjust the start and
finish times manually - or just type the whole thing in manually. All
the video recorders I've ever owned, disk or tape, have had some means
of doing this.

Rod.
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Old October 29th 10, 11:31 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
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In article , Dickie Mint wrote:
Or the Humax. ALL our recordings, whatever the channel, are usually
started late. And, due to the beeb in particular insisting on
overrunning, misses the end of a lot too.


Can't you add padding to the times? Even if the machine doesn't do this
automatically, it should be a simple matter to adjust the start and
finish times manually - or just type the whole thing in manually. All
the video recorders I've ever owned, disk or tape, have had some means
of doing this.


Padding is a nuisance as you never know how much to allow, and end up
recording loads of crap at start and end and still missing stuff if the
schedule is really screwed. And you have problems with increased programme
clashes.

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