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Old September 17th 10, 02:40 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 16, 9:06*pm, "Nick Le Lievre"
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"pete" wrote in message

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I'm interested to see that you paid £1.33 per metre for the cable and
£1.50 for each 'f' plug. Presumably both products were made from solid
gold rather than the usual copper.


Bill


Well they obviously didn't come from Maplin's - they charge much more
for F plugs:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...rderCode=FU04E


and these guys charge 99p a metre for WF65 shotgun cablehttp://www.aerialshack.com/webro-wf65cu-twin-satellite-cable-metre-wh...


I don't use it because it's difficult to fix neatly and it's lossy,
but I'd think the proper price will be about £30 per 100m.

Bill
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Old September 17th 10, 09:59 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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This is where printed contracts and careful reading of them is most
important. You will often find something like, the supplier reserves the
right to discontinue, change or change the conditions of the service.
Sometimes it even says, without prior notice, but I think this could be
considered unfair these days, but it won't stop them doing it, it just means
they will tell you first!
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"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message
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I now have 2 feeds into my flat, when I spoke to the guys who ran the cable
in I commented on the fact that I did not originally expect to get 2 feeds
and that it "must take up more space on the switch" to which he replied yes
and that if everyone in my block decides to connect to the communal dish I
might lose one of my feeds! If everyone does decide to get connected which
by the way ended up costing me £ 220 what other options are there if the
switch runs out of space can/would they add another switch to increase
capacity or would they really disconnect one of my feeds. I could have 2
feeds for five years then one day lose one of them it does not seem fair.



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Old September 17th 10, 11:27 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:55:47 +0100, Nick Le Lievre
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Do you have to use foul language to make your point? I find it slightly
aggressive.


I'm exasperated by your willingness to continually defend the indefensible
and peddle bull**** as facts. Deal with it (or do the other thing). I
don't care.


I am peddling what I regard as facts as facts, I am not trying to "bull****"
if it is "bull****" then I stand corrected.

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Old September 17th 10, 02:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 17, 10:27*am, "Nick Le Lievre"
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I am peddling what I regard as facts as facts, I am not trying to "bull****"
if it is "bull****" then I stand corrected.


Paul can be quite forthright, especially when he is exasperated, and
he exasperates quite easy. He is, though, expressing in his inimitable
way what most of us feel. You came here seeking profession advice,
which you got, and it amounted mostly to the fact that the contractors
in question are (from the evidence you supplied) doing inferior work
and over-charging. We cannot understand why you a so happy to defend
these contractors. We feel that far from defending them you should be
on the warpath. It is rather frustrating to advise someone and then
have the adice thrown back in your face.

Bill
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Old September 17th 10, 04:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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All the wallplates I've seen have an F-connector dongle fitted -
enabling an F-connector terminated cable to connect to one side of the
dongle and an F-connector termintaed fly lead to connect to the other
side of the dongle and also to the TV/STB/Satellite box.

Here's one, out of stock unfortunately, but you get the idea

http://www.thatcable.com/acatalog/in...ace-plate.html


I would call those barrels not dongles.

That particular one would need a very deep back-box to avoid badly kinking
the cables, I think the plates with the barrels set at an angle would be better in that respect.

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Old September 17th 10, 04:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message ...
"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:55:47 +0100, Nick Le Lievre
wrote:

Do you have to use foul language to make your point? I find it slightly
aggressive.


I'm exasperated by your willingness to continually defend the indefensible
and peddle bull**** as facts. Deal with it (or do the other thing). I
don't care.


I am peddling what I regard as facts as facts, I am not trying to "bull****" if it is "bull****" then I stand corrected.


Nick, I have been minded to ask you this for a couple of weeks, but it seems
to be appropriate now.


Is it a consequence of living on a small island that your expectations are so low?
Lack of competing firms. Like it or lump it attitude. That sort of thing.

In the UK work like that gets featured on "Rouge Traders" on national TV!

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Old September 17th 10, 05:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Graham." wrote in message
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Is it a consequence of living on a small island that your expectations are
so low?
Lack of competing firms. Like it or lump it attitude. That sort of thing.


In this instance I do not think I had a choice about who I arranged to run
the new cable into my flat, there was one particular company who erected the
satellite dish and installed the switches etc who had the keys to the
communal areas and had the maintenance contract for at least the first 12
months. I don`t think I would have been able to ring whoever I wanted to
have the cable run in, so in this instance there was no competition
therefore it was a case of like it or lump it and I have decided to like it
rather then lump it. I would say I am satisfied with the work they carried
out, it fell below my initial expectations which were high but is not below
my satisfaction level either.

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Old September 17th 10, 06:25 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 17, 3:04*pm, "Graham." wrote:
All the wallplates I've seen have an F-connector dongle fitted -
enabling an F-connector terminated cable to connect to one side of the
dongle and an F-connector termintaed fly lead to connect to the other
side of the dongle and also to the TV/STB/Satellite box.


Here's one, out of stock unfortunately, but you get the idea


http://www.thatcable.com/acatalog/in...tor-face-plate....


I would call those barrels not dongles.

That particular one would need a very deep back-box to avoid badly kinking
the cables, I think the plates with the barrels set at an angle would be better in that respect.

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Graham.

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Also, see
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/referen...let-plates.pdf

Bill
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Old October 6th 10, 01:00 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Friday, September 17th, 2010 at 15:48:51h +0100, Graham. asked:

Is it a consequence of living on a small island that your expectations
are so low?


Perhaps it is a cultural feature of Jersey where there is apparently the
well worn saying,

"If you don't like it there is always a boat in the morning."
 




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