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Old September 16th 10, 01:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nick Le Lievre
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I now have 2 feeds into my flat, when I spoke to the guys who ran the cable
in I commented on the fact that I did not originally expect to get 2 feeds
and that it "must take up more space on the switch" to which he replied yes
and that if everyone in my block decides to connect to the communal dish I
might lose one of my feeds! If everyone does decide to get connected which
by the way ended up costing me £ 220 what other options are there if the
switch runs out of space can/would they add another switch to increase
capacity or would they really disconnect one of my feeds. I could have 2
feeds for five years then one day lose one of them it does not seem fair.

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Old September 16th 10, 05:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 16, 12:44*pm, "Nick Le Lievre"
wrote:
I now have 2 feeds into my flat, when I spoke to the guys who ran the cable
in I commented on the fact that I did not originally expect to get 2 feeds
and that it "must take up more space on the switch" to which he replied yes
and that if everyone in my block decides to connect to the communal dish I
might lose one of my feeds! If everyone does decide to get connected which
by the way ended up costing me £ 220 what other options are there if the
switch runs out of space can/would they add another switch to increase
capacity or would they really disconnect one of my feeds. I could have 2
feeds for five years then one day lose one of them it does not seem fair.


I've slightly lost track of this. Did you pay for the second feed as
an identifiable item on an invoice, or was it a pound notes job to
these 'engineers'?

Bill
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Old September 16th 10, 05:32 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nick Le Lievre
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On Sep 16, 12:44 pm, "Nick Le Lievre"
wrote:
I now have 2 feeds into my flat, when I spoke to the guys who ran the
cable
in I commented on the fact that I did not originally expect to get 2
feeds
and that it "must take up more space on the switch" to which he replied
yes
and that if everyone in my block decides to connect to the communal dish
I
might lose one of my feeds! If everyone does decide to get connected
which
by the way ended up costing me £ 220 what other options are there if the
switch runs out of space can/would they add another switch to increase
capacity or would they really disconnect one of my feeds. I could have 2
feeds for five years then one day lose one of them it does not seem fair.


I've slightly lost track of this. Did you pay for the second feed as
an identifiable item on an invoice, or was it a pound notes job to
these 'engineers'


When I first phoned up to arrange the installation the managing director
asked me if I required 2 feeds which I said I did, they came round and
installed WF65 shotgun cable which is two thin diameter cables glued
together which looks like a shotgun, so I have 2 feeds. On the invoice there
is mention of the labour charge 2.5 hours at £ 60 per hour and twin twiax
siamese cable x 30 = £ 40 - Connectors x 4 = £ 6 and 1x 3M trunking = £
7.50.

So on the invoice is states that I have twin cable which is used for two
feeds, the guys who ran the cable did say we are allocated a space on the
switch.

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Old September 16th 10, 05:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 16, 4:32*pm, "Nick Le Lievre"
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On Sep 16, 12:44 pm, "Nick Le Lievre"
wrote:
I now have 2 feeds into my flat, when I spoke to the guys who ran the
cable
in I commented on the fact that I did not originally expect to get 2
feeds
and that it "must take up more space on the switch" to which he replied
yes
and that if everyone in my block decides to connect to the communal dish
I
might lose one of my feeds! If everyone does decide to get connected
which
by the way ended up costing me £ 220 what other options are there if the
switch runs out of space can/would they add another switch to increase
capacity or would they really disconnect one of my feeds. I could have 2
feeds for five years then one day lose one of them it does not seem fair.


I've slightly lost track of this. Did you pay for the second feed as
an identifiable item on an invoice, or was it a pound notes job to
these 'engineers'


When I first phoned up to arrange the installation the managing director
asked me if I required 2 feeds which I said I did, they came round and
installed WF65 shotgun cable which is two thin diameter cables glued
together which looks like a shotgun, so I have 2 feeds. On the invoice there
is mention of the labour charge 2.5 hours at £ 60 per hour and twin twiax
siamese cable x 30 = £ 40 - Connectors x 4 = £ 6 and 1x 3M trunking = £
7.50.

So on the invoice is states that I have twin cable which is used for two
feeds, the guys who ran the cable did say we are allocated a space on the
switch.- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, the mention of twin cable and four f plugs proves that you had
two feeds, and there's a clear implication I would have thought that
the feeds will have signal on them, so I suggest you hang on to that
invoice.

I'm interested to see that you paid £1.33 per metre for the cable and
£1.50 for each 'f' plug. Presumably both products were made from solid
gold rather than the usual copper.

Bill
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Old September 16th 10, 06:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Mc[_3_]
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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
: by the way ended up costing me £ 220 what other options are there if the
: switch runs out of space can/would they add another switch to increase
: capacity or would they really disconnect one of my feeds.

If they have charged you £220 for a second feed I think they will have entered
into a contract to supply you this for ever!

Also, of course, if more people want second feeds, and EACH pays them this
amount they will have stacks of money for a new, high capacity, switch!

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Old September 16th 10, 06:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nick Le Lievre
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"Brian Mc" wrote in message
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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
: by the way ended up costing me £ 220 what other options are there if the
: switch runs out of space can/would they add another switch to increase
: capacity or would they really disconnect one of my feeds.

If they have charged you £220 for a second feed I think they will have
entered
into a contract to supply you this for ever!


They charged me £ 220 in total which provided two feeds from the time of
installation, I never had one feed to begin with.

Also, of course, if more people want second feeds, and EACH pays them this
amount they will have stacks of money for a new, high capacity, switch!


Yeah hopefully I will never be downgraded to one feed because either the
switch never reaches full capacity or they upgrade it to a higher capacity
one should they run out of feeds.

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Old September 16th 10, 06:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 16, 5:33*pm, "Nick Le Lievre"
wrote:
"Brian Mc" wrote in message

...

Nick Le Lievre wrote:
: by the way ended up costing me £ 220 what other options are there if the
: switch runs out of space can/would they add another switch to increase
: capacity or would they really disconnect one of my feeds.


If they have charged you £220 for a second feed I think they will have
entered
into a contract to supply you this for ever!


They charged me £ 220 in total which provided two feeds from the time of
installation, I never had one feed to begin with.

Also, of course, if more people want second feeds, and EACH pays them this
amount they will have stacks of money for a new, high capacity, switch!


Yeah hopefully I will never be downgraded to one feed because either the
switch never reaches full capacity or they upgrade it to a higher capacity
one should they run out of feeds.


Fact is that price is a total rip off. It would have been that even if
they'd done the job right. As it is ... well, it takes my breath away.

Bill
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Old September 16th 10, 07:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nick Le Lievre
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" wrote in message
...

Yeah hopefully I will never be downgraded to one feed because either the
switch never reaches full capacity or they upgrade it to a higher
capacity
one should they run out of feeds.


Fact is that price is a total rip off. It would have been that even if
they'd done the job right. As it is ... well, it takes my breath away.


Well the shotgun cable they used cannot be terminated to certain wallplates
as they are often made for standard sized cables this and the fact that you
get some loss when terminating to a wallplate may have been the reasons why
they just put F connectors on the end of the cables and had done with it. I
have kinda got over the shock of not having a wallplate seeing as wallplates
are not always used for good reason.

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Old September 16th 10, 07:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:23:37 +0100, "Nick Le Lievre"
wrote:

" wrote in message
...

Yeah hopefully I will never be downgraded to one feed because either the
switch never reaches full capacity or they upgrade it to a higher
capacity
one should they run out of feeds.


Fact is that price is a total rip off. It would have been that even if
they'd done the job right. As it is ... well, it takes my breath away.


Well the shotgun cable they used cannot be terminated to certain wallplates
as they are often made for standard sized cables this and the fact that you
get some loss when terminating to a wallplate may have been the reasons why
they just put F connectors on the end of the cables and had done with it. I
have kinda got over the shock of not having a wallplate seeing as wallplates
are not always used for good reason.


All the wallplates I've seen have an F-connector dongle fitted -
enabling an F-connector terminated cable to connect to one side of the
dongle and an F-connector termintaed fly lead to connect to the other
side of the dongle and also to the TV/STB/Satellite box.

Here's one, out of stock unfortunately, but you get the idea

http://www.thatcable.com/acatalog/in...ace-plate.html
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Cheers

Peter
 




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