Cable clips on stone wall

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

It's a bit long winded, but you can buy wall plugs which get round this.
You drill a hole, insert it then tap the nail into it.

B&Q sell them - but alongside the cable clips rather than ordinary wall
plugs. Made by Tower.

Thanks. That sounds like just the thing.

Annoyingly, I can't find them on the B&Q web site, to check they're
in stock.

-- Richard

On 11/09/2010 14:15, Ken wrote:

How do you attach cable clips to a stone wall?

Use glue.


The Marky P special all surface solution, No-More-Nails?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p18700

Glue cable tie bases to the stone, then attach cables.

--
Adrian C

Richard Tobin wrote:
How do you attach cable clips to a stone wall? *If I manage to hit the

Masonry nails.

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:33:53 -0700 (PDT), jgharston
wrote:

Richard Tobin wrote:
How do you attach cable clips to a stone wall? *If I manage to hit the

Masonry nails.

Drill/bash a hole in the wall, hammer in a bit of dowel, then cable
clip to the dowel.

--
Frank Erskine

In article ,
harry wrote:
On 11 Sep, 19:29, "alexander.keys1" wrote:
On 11 Sep, 12:52, (Richard Tobin) wrote:

How do you attach cable clips to a stone wall? *If I manage to hit the
nail hard enough to make any impact on the stone, it makes a hole so
big it falls right out.

-- Richard

ISTR the proper way to lay small cables, that normally have nailed
clips, on hard walls, is to first screw a strip of wood to the wall,
and nail to that. Or you could fit a length of conduit, you won't need
bends or conduit boxes for sheathed cable, just straight lengths to
provide support and protection where necessary.

You can drill a hole and fit the smallest plastic plugs. They will
hold a nail.

Yep, drill small hole, push in a pin plug and then use normal cable clip.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/100-Pin-Plugs-...6#ht_500wt_918

( http://preview.tinyurl.com/pinplug as a slightly nicer URL)

Darren

On 11/09/2010 19:29, alexander.keys1 wrote:
On 11 Sep, 12:52, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
How do you attach cable clips to a stone wall? If I manage to hit the
nail hard enough to make any impact on the stone, it makes a hole so
big it falls right out.

-- Richard

ISTR the proper way to lay small cables, that normally have nailed
clips, on hard walls, is to first screw a strip of wood to the wall,
and nail to that. Or you could fit a length of conduit, you won't need
bends or conduit boxes for sheathed cable, just straight lengths to
provide support and protection where necessary.

I use hammer-in cable tie bases, for example eBay 250694479160. I have
the opposite problem of old soft red bricks but the hammer in ones
should work on hard stone as well. You might have to experiment to find
the best size of drill. Great thing is when you want to change the cable
you just cut the cable tie and use a new one around the new cable.

Peter Scott

On 11/09/2010 19:29, alexander.keys1 wrote:
On 11 Sep, 12:52, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
How do you attach cable clips to a stone wall? If I manage to hit the
nail hard enough to make any impact on the stone, it makes a hole so
big it falls right out.

-- Richard

ISTR the proper way to lay small cables, that normally have nailed
clips, on hard walls, is to first screw a strip of wood to the wall,
and nail to that. Or you could fit a length of conduit, you won't need
bends or conduit boxes for sheathed cable, just straight lengths to
provide support and protection where necessary.

I prefer to use the plastic plugs with tie-wrap slots.

Use an SDS to drill a hole, tap the plug in with a hammer, and tie-wrap
the cable to the plug.

Very fast and convenient.

--
Ron

On Sep 11, 5:18*pm, John Rumm wrote:
On 11/09/2010 12:52, Richard Tobin wrote:

How do you attach cable clips to a stone wall? *If I manage to hit the
nail hard enough to make any impact on the stone, it makes a hole so
big it falls right out.

For the really hard cases, pin plugs. Otherwise use decent clips - tower
are not bad, and try and develop the knack of hitting them just right!

I find you need firm, square on, and "dead" blows, so the hammer comes
to rest on the nail and stays there (perhaps with a small bounce) rather
than letting it recoil away like you were driving a nail into wood.

Yes, use clips with stout pins. Tap them in. A lot of little taps,
like this: tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap
tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap. The hammer should bounce off the
nail head, so gentle are the taps. Your instinct is to hit hard
because the material's hard, but that doesn't work. Not like this:
BASH BASH BASH BASH. Some say it's like sex. I wouldn't
know; can't remember.

And please do be careful with your eyes. The energy in that hammer
head when transferred to that tiny nail head means that if the latter
breaks off it will fly like a bullet. If it goes in your eye you'll
likely lose the sight in it. Goggles please!

Bill

Now here's a thing. If you're caught out with no plugs or anything, if
you drill a hole just a few mm deep and then tap the nail into it,
often the nail will penetrate further and will fix OK. Bricks must be
hardest near the surface.

Also the vertical mortar joints are often softer than the horizontal
ones.

Bill

On 11 Sep, 20:07, [email protected] (D.M.Chapman) wrote:
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harry wrote:
On 11 Sep, 19:29, "alexander.keys1" wrote:
On 11 Sep, 12:52, (Richard Tobin) wrote:

How do you attach cable clips to a stone wall? If I manage to hit the
nail hard enough to make any impact on the stone, it makes a hole so
big it falls right out.

-- Richard

ISTR the proper way to lay small cables, that normally have nailed
clips, on hard walls, is to first screw a strip of wood to the wall,
and nail to that. Or you could fit a length of conduit, you won't need
bends or conduit boxes for sheathed cable, just straight lengths to
provide support and protection where necessary.

You can drill a hole and fit the smallest plastic plugs. They will
hold a nail.

Yep, drill small hole, push in a pin plug and then use normal cable clip.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/100-Pin-Plugs-...ips-Into-Hard-...

(http://preview.tinyurl.com/pinplugas a slightly nicer URL)

or just

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/300329169864

;)
Jim K