a test of BBC left/liberal bias

"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:18:13 +0100, Steve Thackery
wrote:

I have no problem with the cultural norms of every sort of immigrant,
as long as they understand that they must not trespass on my cultural
norms. Why do mine trump theirs? Because this is Britain.

Absolutely. Agree 100%. And I agree because I've learned from the
lessons
of British imperialism, where we got that wrong so often.

When I go to another country, I ABSOLUTELY expect to conform to their
cultural norms. It would be arrogant, discourteous and disrespectful to
do
otherwise.

So yes: I expect that same attitude from people coming here.

Likewise. When we visit foreign countries, we are often thrown into jail
for breaches of local laws (often unsuspectingly for stuff you'd get
away with here e.g. just some of the news stories I can remember - plane
spotting, excess drinking, sex on the beach, going topless in nightclubs).

Those foreign countries wouldn't consider making exceptions for us. Why
should it be different when they come here?
Why should we bend over backwards to accommodate all and sundry and
their "weird" ways in our damned country?
We shouldn't. There really is nothing to argue about. This country has
been a soft touch for far too long.


You'll be trying to kid us next that we wouldn't be allowed to fund and
build dozens of Christian churches in Saudi Arabia, in the same way in which
the Saudis fund huge mosques here in the UK.

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:37:38 +0100, Ivan wrote:

You'll be trying to kid us next that we wouldn't be allowed to fund and
build dozens of Christian churches in Saudi Arabia, in the same way in which
the Saudis fund huge mosques here in the UK.

No idea. Religion's the root of all evil (well, most of it anyway).

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:37:38 +0100, Ivan wrote:

You'll be trying to kid us next that we wouldn't be allowed to fund and
build dozens of Christian churches in Saudi Arabia, in the same way in which
the Saudis fund huge mosques here in the UK.

No idea. Religion's the root of all evil (well, most of it anyway).

Something we can actually agree on.

--
Adrian

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Ivan"
saying something like:

We shouldn't. There really is nothing to argue about. This country has
been a soft touch for far too long.


You'll be trying to kid us next that we wouldn't be allowed to fund and
build dozens of Christian churches in Saudi Arabia, in the same way in which
the Saudis fund huge mosques here in the UK.

I take it you're being ironic.
http://islam.about.com/od/saudiarabia/i/ksachurch.htm

Fwiw, the local x-tian clergyman was banged up in Egypt for preaching a
bit when he was younger. Daft sod went back after he was deported and
was lucky to get back out again.

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:34:45 +0100, Adrian wrote:

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

Religion's the root of all evil (well, most of it anyway).

Something we can actually agree on.

Or maybe not.

"For the love of money is the root of all evil."

In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon


Fwiw, the local x-tian clergyman was banged up in Egypt for preaching a
bit when he was younger. Daft sod went back after he was deported and
was lucky to get back out again.

Where I live we currently have the curious situation where a 'religious
group' are holding an all-week knees-up... erm meeting at a local school.
*5,000* of them, complete with PA systems, rock bands, etc. Their motto
seems to be more "deafen your neighbour" than "love your neighbour". They
maker a racket until around 10pm. Must be a nightmare for those whose
houses back onto the site. We can hear it here, a few streets away, when
indoors with the windows closed!

I met one of the badge-carrying people involved when I was shopping today.
Couldn't resist asking him if he knew that many of the people in the houses
around the school were upset by the noise. His reaction was that it was
'christian' as if that made it less of a nuisance for neighbours. Or as if
somehow having 'christian' in the name of the meeting absolved them from
having any concern for their neighbours. Weird. I'd have thought
'christians' would be more considerate, and even concerned that their
behaviour may be giving 'christian' a bad image.

Must admit I've been wondering just what kind of body/group they are. I
recall the old line about "Any country that has 'democratic' in its name,
isn't!" Maybe there is a parallel here... :-)

Purely as a matter of personal taste my wife (I think accurately) described
their 'music' sic as 'hymnotic'. Seems to vary between that and "bad rock
group with a bored singer via awful but loud PA". Oh well, I guess musical
taste isn't a requirement to get into heaven. ;- Nor, it seems, is
concern for others... at least for *some* who claim to be religious.

Come the day, if they are right, I'll be raising their behaviour with the
'big man'. 8-]

Slainte,

Jim

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On Tuesday, July 27th, 2010 at 18:24:51h +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Where I live we currently have the curious situation where a 'religious
group' are holding an all-week knees-up... erm meeting at a local
school.

Seems more like a money making enterprise than anything else.

GBP 22.00 for a day pass? Is that what rock concerts charge?

If they are raking in the cash, no wonder they do not care about the noise.

Jim Lesurf wrote:

Where I live we currently have the curious situation where a 'religious
group' are holding an all-week knees-up... erm meeting at a local school.
*5,000* of them, complete with PA systems, rock bands, etc. Their motto
seems to be more "deafen your neighbour" than "love your neighbour". They
maker a racket until around 10pm. Must be a nightmare for those whose
houses back onto the site. We can hear it here, a few streets away, when
indoors with the windows closed!

Seriously, someone should walk onto he site with some insulated pliers
and cut as many speaker cables as possible.

Bill

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:50:19 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Seriously, someone should walk onto he site with some insulated pliers
and cut as many speaker cables as possible.

According to a former colleage who did his national service with the
signals regiment of the Norwegian army, you should use the pliers to
push a pin though both conductors, then cut off the ends of the pin so
they can't find it.

On Tuesday, July 27th, 2010, at 23:50:19h +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

Seriously

So you are not joking.

someone should walk onto he site with some insulated pliers
and cut as many speaker cables as possible.

Thereby committing criminal damage.

From http://www.cps.gov.UK/legal/h_to_k/inchoate_offences/

QUOTE

Assisting or *Encouraging Crime*

Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 creates, at sections 44 to 46,
three new inchoate offences of *intentionally encouraging* or assisting
an offence; encouraging or assisting an offence believing it will be
committed; and encouraging or assisting offences believing one or more
will be committed.

These offences replace the common law offence of incitement for all
offences committed after 1 October 2008.

They allow people who assist another to commit an offence to be prosecuted
*regardless* of whether the underlying substantive offence is actually
committed *or attempted*.

UNQUOTE