OT Right to life Dr Who?

On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:58:46 +0100, Richard Brooks wrote:

J G Miller said the following on 22/05/2010 17:20:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 16:29:04 +0100, Richard Brooks wrote:

Yes, wearing a top hat and a TARDIS made of chocolate.

Gene Wilder has acted, and acted better, in many other movies and stage
productions.

http://www.imdb.COM/name/nm0000698/


As the Yanks say "Well duh!" but what has that to do with him wearing a
top hat and playing Dr. Who in a TARDIS made of chocolate?

It could be an homage to the Liqourice allsorts episode of long, long
ago.

To me, and I am sure a lot of other people, it sounded more like a reference
to Wilder's performance in Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory.

J G Miller said the following on 23/05/2010 00:49:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:58:46 +0100, Richard Brooks wrote:

J G Miller said the following on 22/05/2010 17:20:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 16:29:04 +0100, Richard Brooks wrote:

Yes, wearing a top hat and a TARDIS made of chocolate.
Gene Wilder has acted, and acted better, in many other movies and stage
productions.

http://www.imdb.COM/name/nm0000698/


As the Yanks say "Well duh!" but what has that to do with him wearing a
top hat and playing Dr. Who in a TARDIS made of chocolate?

It could be an homage to the Liqourice allsorts episode of long, long
ago.

To me, and I am sure a lot of other people, it sounded more like a reference
to Wilder's performance in Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory.


An homage to but the TARDIS would have made it a crossover.

There was no point in Wilder doing a Geilgud in Willy Wonka. It was a
kids film and as far as I remember, depth and Soviet angst is not
really what kids are into, Disney and High School Musical more like!

Even then the quality of his acting would still be far in excess to
what would be needed for Dr. Who which is tied into the history of
"ooo no missus!" the great British farce, i.e., Terry and June, Bone
Kickers, Get Some In, My Family and Dr. Who to name but a few.

On Sat, 22 May 2010 14:53:19 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Thu, 20 May 2010 08:09:51 +0100, Bob Latham wrote:

Just recently I watched a tv interview with Tom Baker and he said words
to the effect that for Doctor Who he didn't act at all he was just
himself.

Indeed, so.

This does of course raise the old question, in view of the success of
Tom Baker's slightly manic but comic portrayal of Doctor Who, which is

"Would Gene Wilder have been a good choice of actor to play the role of
Doctor Who?"

The closest to him was Sylvester McCoy and he was terrible as Dr Who
IMHO.
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On Mon, 24 May 2010 09:41:15 +0100, Mark wrote:

The closest to him was Sylvester McCoy and he was terrible as Dr Who
IMHO.

I am not wishing to dispute your opinion, but could you please explain
why you thought he was terrible, and also why worse than Colin Baker
or Peter Davison?

On Mon, 24 May 2010 16:45:48 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Mon, 24 May 2010 09:41:15 +0100, Mark wrote:

The closest to him was Sylvester McCoy and he was terrible as Dr Who
IMHO.

I am not wishing to dispute your opinion, but could you please explain
why you thought he was terrible, and also why worse than Colin Baker
or Peter Davison?

I didn't say he was worse than Colin Baker just he was the actor (who
actually played Dr Who) most like Gene Wilder IMHO. I don't remember
watching Dr Who much during the Colin Baker years. I am struggling to
remember Davison in the role apart from he wasn't as good as Tom
Baker.

I'm not sure whether it was the actor or the scripts that made Dr Who
under McCoy poor -- probably a bit of both. Maybe he brought too much
of his comedy background with him to Dr Who.
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Mark wrote:
'm not sure whether it was the actor or the scripts that made Dr Who
under McCoy poor -- probably a bit of both. Maybe he brought too much
of his comedy background with him to Dr Who.

He (McCoy) was certainly good fun in the studio. As in everything else he
worked on. Maybe not to the director, though.

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On Tue, 25 May 2010 09:30:51 +0100, Mark wrote:

I didn't say he was worse than Colin Baker

Sorry I did not mean to imply that you had. I should have been more
explicit in asking if you thought that because he was terrible, you
also considered him to be worse than Peter Davidson or Colin Baker.

The period of Colin Baker as the Doctor was seriously marred by
the "Trial of a Time Lord" collection of episodes of dismal scripts
and stories.

I'm not sure whether it was the actor or the scripts that made Dr Who
under McCoy poor -- probably a bit of both.

I have not watched much of McCoy's material, but the overall impression
was that the story lines had become very poor -- the nonsense of the
Paradise Towers, Delta and the Bannerman, the Happiness Patrol, the
production was running out of steam, and he was burdened with poor
companions who were there merely to try and make the show hip and
contemporary in order to "identify" with younger viewers.

Maybe he brought too much of his comedy background with him to Dr Who.

Again, my impression was that he was much more convincing in the role
than Jon Pertwee who also came from a comedy background.

On Sat, 22 May 2010 14:43:28 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2010 13:51:54 +0100, Albert Ross wrote:

Then there are the ones who have a much wider range.

Gary Oldman.

Holly Hunter (as opposed to Helen Hunt)

Now that'd make Dr Who worth watching eh? Gary Oldman as the Doctor
and Holly Hunter as his companion . . .