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Old May 16th 10, 03:52 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Apologies for what might rank as one of the most naive questions of
the week.

I am buying a Freeview HD television (built in HD tuner). It has two
SCART sockets. If I record an HD channel using a PVR with hard disc
will I get an HD recording or is the signal converted to SD before it
reaches the SCART?
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Old May 16th 10, 03:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Scott" wrote in message
...
Apologies for what might rank as one of the most naive questions of
the week.

I am buying a Freeview HD television (built in HD tuner). It has two
SCART sockets. If I record an HD channel using a PVR with hard disc
will I get an HD recording or is the signal converted to SD before it
reaches the SCART?




the scarts won't output HD - and your PVR won't record it even if it did -
you'd need a PVR with a HD tuner of it's own.



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Old May 16th 10, 04:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Scott" wrote in message
...
Apologies for what might rank as one of the most naive questions of
the week.

I am buying a Freeview HD television (built in HD tuner). It has two
SCART sockets. If I record an HD channel using a PVR with hard disc
will I get an HD recording or is the signal converted to SD before it
reaches the SCART?

Hello Scott
A HDMI socket is needed to record any HD material from a TV and they don't
seem to be making them yet.
You will be able to record the HD channels through the scart socket on your
TV but it will only be a SD output and not HD.
At present time there seems to be no way of recording Freeview HD apart from
buying a dedicated Freeview HD PVR or a Freeview HD card in a computer.
Even then transferring recordings made with these devices will be difficult
owing to encryption techniques and copyright restrictions.
Obviously this does not affect your own HD recording made with a camcorder.

Peter

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Old May 16th 10, 05:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Peter wrote:


"Scott" wrote in message
...
Apologies for what might rank as one of the most naive questions of
the week.

I am buying a Freeview HD television (built in HD tuner). It has two
SCART sockets. If I record an HD channel using a PVR with hard disc
will I get an HD recording or is the signal converted to SD before it
reaches the SCART?

Hello Scott
A HDMI socket is needed to record any HD material from a TV and they
don't seem to be making them yet.


And they almost certainly never will.

You will be able to record the HD channels through the scart socket on
your TV but it will only be a SD output and not HD.
At present time there seems to be no way of recording Freeview HD apart
from buying a dedicated Freeview HD PVR or a Freeview HD card in a
computer.
Even then transferring recordings made with these devices will be
difficult owing to encryption techniques and copyright restrictions.
Obviously this does not affect your own HD recording made with a
camcorder.

Peter



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Old May 16th 10, 08:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Scott wrote:
Apologies for what might rank as one of the most naive questions of
the week.


I am buying a Freeview HD television (built in HD tuner). It has two
SCART sockets. If I record an HD channel using a PVR with hard disc
will I get an HD recording or is the signal converted to SD before it
reaches the SCART?


Are you certain your PVR will record from an external source? Most won't.
But even if it will, it won't record HD off a SCART - SCART doesn't
support it.

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Old May 16th 10, 11:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 16 May 2010 19:23:08 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Scott wrote:
Apologies for what might rank as one of the most naive questions of
the week.


I am buying a Freeview HD television (built in HD tuner). It has two
SCART sockets. If I record an HD channel using a PVR with hard disc
will I get an HD recording or is the signal converted to SD before it
reaches the SCART?


Are you certain your PVR will record from an external source? Most won't.
But even if it will, it won't record HD off a SCART - SCART doesn't
support it.


It will record as a direct TV recording. I have used this facility to
play a VHS video and record it on to hard disc, edit it and burn it to
DVD. I was sceptical that the SCART output would be HD - and you (and
others) have now confirmed this.
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Old May 17th 10, 12:35 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Scott wrote:
Are you certain your PVR will record from an external source? Most won't.
But even if it will, it won't record HD off a SCART - SCART doesn't
support it.


It will record as a direct TV recording. I have used this facility to
play a VHS video and record it on to hard disc, edit it and burn it to
DVD. I was sceptical that the SCART output would be HD - and you (and
others) have now confirmed this.


Ah - it's one of those with a built in DVD recorder too?

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Old May 17th 10, 12:45 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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"Scott" wrote in message
...

It will record as a direct TV recording. I have used this facility to
play a VHS video and record it on to hard disc, edit it and burn it to
DVD. I was sceptical that the SCART output would be HD - and you (and
others) have now confirmed this.


Just to be perfectly clear: the boxes with an HD *and* an optical disk drive
will normally let you record from an external source via SCART (usually to
either the HD or the optical disk, as you wish). But normal PVRs with just
a hard disk won't record from the SCART socket. The only thing they will
record is what arrives via their internal tuner(s).

As you said, SCART doesn't carry HD material.

If you want to record a Freeview HD programme, the only choice open to you
is to record it with a Freeview HD PVR. They are just entering the market
now.

I realise you probably knew that, I just wanted to restate it. :-)

SteveT

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Old May 17th 10, 11:53 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 16 May, 16:03, Adrian wrote:
Peter wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
Apologies for what might rank as one of the most naive questions of
the week.


I am buying a Freeview HD television (built in HD tuner). *It has two
SCART sockets. *If I record an HD channel using a PVR with hard disc
will I get an HD recording or is the signal converted to SD before it
reaches the SCART?

Hello Scott
A HDMI *socket is needed to record any HD material from a TV and they
don't seem to be making them yet.


And they almost certainly never will.


You can get devices to record from an HDMI input, but they're
specialised things - not boxes sold to consumers to put under their
TV.

Plus the HDMI signal is normally HDCP copy protected (even content
from some "free" channels). It's possible to get around that (not
legally), but that's more hassle and expense.

The normal way to do things will be via an all-in-one PVR. If you want
more flexibility (but more headaches!), build a PC-based solution
(when DVB-T2 cards are cheaper).

Cheers,
David.
 




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