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Old April 10th 10, 11:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
JohnW[_2_]
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On 10 Apr, 21:08, Mike Henry wrote:
In , "John Veldman"

wrote:
You might be annoyed to find NONE of the current TVs on sale will work with
FREEVIEW HD without an extra decoding box.


Untrue - there are 19 different Sony Bravias with Freeview HD tuners in
them, launched back in February, on sale now.http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/02...eeview_hd_tvs/


Yes - only got a year to wait until I can use it. A friend in
Manchester is luckier with his.

John, Cambridge

  #22  
Old April 11th 10, 01:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In message , Peter Duncanson
wrote

They are correct in saying or implying that if you are using your HD TV
to watch DVDs you are not getting the full benefit of your HD TV
(because DVDs are not in HD). An additional box, a Blu-ray player, and
lots of new discs are necessary.


Then it would help if they made Bluray disks to fill the screen. If they
insist on making disks with silly aspect ratios then there is little
point in calling it HD if half the screen is taken up with black bars!
They cannot even get the frame rate correct.
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Old April 11th 10, 01:44 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Alan" wrote in message
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Then it would help if they made Bluray disks to fill the screen.


It's very unfortunate that lots of films are made with an aspect ratio of
around 2.35:1, while widescreen TVs are roughly 1.78:1.

So, where the publisher wants the film to be shown in its original format,
the black lines are inevitable (except on that Philips TV, which has a
properly wide screen).

SteveT

  #24  
Old April 11th 10, 09:11 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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In article , Alan wrote:
Then it would help if they made Bluray disks to fill the screen. If they
insist on making disks with silly aspect ratios then there is little
point in calling it HD if half the screen is taken up with black bars!
They cannot even get the frame rate correct.


The lack of standardisation is nothing to do with Blu-Ray, but the movie
film industry, which provides most of the programme material and has a
history extending back several lifetimes before Blu-Ray or anything like it
could have been contemplated.

Rod.
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Old April 11th 10, 10:18 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:

A few months ago I bought a LG LCD TV Model 32LF77 which is HD ready and
receives Freeview and Freesat programmes. While at times programmes on the
BBC HD channel seem clearer


When watching BBC HD or ITV HD on freesat, your set will be showing the
native HD resolution as broadcast.


there are other times when there is little
perceptible difference from the SD channels.


Some HD programmes may actually be upscaled from SD by the broadcaster,


I have read that all programs on the BBC HD channel are from genuine
HD sources, but ITV and Channel 4 both broadcast upscaled SD material.

I've yet to see a program on Channel 4 HD (Freeview) that was any
different from the SD version.

-- Richard
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Old April 11th 10, 11:00 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Alan" wrote in message
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Then it would help if they made Bluray disks to fill the screen. If they
insist on making disks with silly aspect ratios then there is little point
in calling it HD if half the screen is taken up with black bars! They
cannot even get the frame rate correct.




if you care about picture quality why would you want the edges of the movie
cut off ?



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Old April 11th 10, 11:09 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Richard Tobin wrote:


I've yet to see a program on Channel 4 HD (Freeview) that was any
different from the SD version.


Well, tonight on C4 the following programmes are native HD:-

17:10 to 18:30 Valiant

20:00 to 21:00 Come Dine With Me

21:00 to 22:00 The Restoration Man

During the week, Teenage Soap, Hollyoaks (18:30 to 19:30) is native HD


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Old April 11th 10, 11:48 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian C
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On 10/04/2010 20:21, John Veldman wrote:

Shop sales staff will lie to earn money - simple as that.


So what? You lie to breathe, Tiscali Idiot!!

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&q=author%3Ajohn.nospam%40veldman.net

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Old April 11th 10, 02:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan[_4_]
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In message en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote
In article , Alan wrote:
Then it would help if they made Bluray disks to fill the screen. If they
insist on making disks with silly aspect ratios then there is little
point in calling it HD if half the screen is taken up with black bars!
They cannot even get the frame rate correct.


The lack of standardisation is nothing to do with Blu-Ray, but the movie
film industry, which provides most of the programme material and has a
history extending back several lifetimes before Blu-Ray or anything like it
could have been contemplated.


They are not producing BluRay disks to be shown in the cinema, they are
for home entertainment where they will be shown on a domestic TV.

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Old April 11th 10, 03:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Alan" wrote in message ...
In message en.co.uk, Roderick Stewart
wrote
In article , Alan wrote:
Then it would help if they made Bluray disks to fill the screen. If they
insist on making disks with silly aspect ratios then there is little
point in calling it HD if half the screen is taken up with black bars!
They cannot even get the frame rate correct.


The lack of standardisation is nothing to do with Blu-Ray, but the movie
film industry, which provides most of the programme material and has a
history extending back several lifetimes before Blu-Ray or anything like it
could have been contemplated.


They are not producing BluRay disks to be shown in the cinema, they are for home entertainment where they will be shown on a
domestic TV.


So movie directors shooting on wider than 16:9 formats will need to keep all
the significant action in a central safe area and avoid the sides so they can be cropped
for full-screen Blu-Ray?
Wouldn't it be better to use the whole frame and allow the viewer to choose to zoom it.

Perhaps you would prefer some third party to decide what part of the frame you should be looking at,
at any given moment? (Pan & Scan)

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