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Old April 2nd 10, 01:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Hayes[_3_]
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Borg wrote:

My new Panasonic TX-32LXD80 with built in tuner says HD Ready all

over
the box and booklet but I'm told I still need to get a NEW STB to

get
the new HD channels.

Is this true ?


As others have said - yes.

There is a somewhat legitimate reason though. For years, TVs with only
analogue tuners were sold as "HD-ready" meaning that they could
display some form of HD when connected to an external source such as a
BluRay player. Pedants may want to to discuss the various meanings of
"HD" but that's just a distraction in this case.

When Panasonic put a freeview tuner in the set, they enhanced it (it
could receive SD freeview channels without an external box) but that
didn't remove its "HD-ready" capability.

I agree it's not a satisfactory situation and lots of people will be
unhappy about it. Apart from the cost of adding an external HD
receiver box, there's the clutter and the inconvenience of another
remote control. However, I doubt you'd get far complaining to
Panasonic or the retailer.

Personally, I've held off buying a new large-screen TV until I can get
one with a built in HD tuner at a reasonable price.

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  #22  
Old April 2nd 10, 04:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 1 Apr., 17:23, Borg wrote:

It has a freeveiw tuner in it not freesat.


So you knew that different tuners exist
and yours is a Freeview tunere and not
a Freesat or FreeviewHD tuner.

Why ask questions about things
you know ?

zulu wrote:
What is HD Ready?

A con trick.

No it is NOT.
First note that 'HD Ready' is NOT English
- it looks like it - but it is an
international 'Branding' - It's a symbol.
The use of the word 'Ready' is very likely
not even 'invented' by a person having
English as her/his first language.

It has however ensured that almost all TV displays
sold since say 2005/06, can display HD and has
a compliant HDMI input connector.

So without the 'HD Ready' branding most TV sets
would NOT even be able to display HD from a
FreeviewHD box.
As a DVB-T2 HD box is now below £100 and a new
32" TV set is more like £500 - this has saved a
lot of viewers a very large amount of money.


Lars
  #23  
Old April 2nd 10, 04:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Maurice Batey[_2_]
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:42:49 +0100, Borg wrote:

Technisat HDFS High
Definition Digital Satellite / Freesat Receiver

http://tinyurl.com/yduw7h3


Looks interesting! If I have two satellite feeds available, does this box
allow recording to a USB drive at the same time as watching another channel?

I happen to have a spare 250GB USB drive which would be handy to use as an
external recorder.

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  #24  
Old April 2nd 10, 05:25 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan[_4_]
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In message , Steve Hayes
wrote
Borg wrote:

My new Panasonic TX-32LXD80 with built in tuner says HD Ready all

over
the box and booklet but I'm told I still need to get a NEW STB to

get
the new HD channels.

Is this true ?


As others have said - yes.


As seen advertised today on TV

FULL LED and 3D ready. I assume the LED is backlight only.


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  #25  
Old April 2nd 10, 06:28 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
charles
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In article ,
Alan wrote:
In message , Steve Hayes
wrote
Borg wrote:

My new Panasonic TX-32LXD80 with built in tuner says HD Ready all

over
the box and booklet but I'm told I still need to get a NEW STB to

get
the new HD channels.

Is this true ?


As others have said - yes.


As seen advertised today on TV


FULL LED and 3D ready. I assume the LED is backlight only.


Panasonic refer to it as having an "LCD Display Panel"

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  #26  
Old April 2nd 10, 06:56 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Richard Tobin
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In article ,
reslfj wrote:

It has however ensured that almost all TV displays
sold since say 2005/06, can display HD and has
a compliant HDMI input connector.


In other words they had HD-ready displays, but were not HD-ready
televisions because they were never going to be capable of receiving
HD broadcasts.

Never believe any "X-ready" description. For years televisions were
sold as "cable-ready" purely on the basis that they could handle, say,
100 channels. But they were completely unable to decode cable
transmissions, and the vast number of channels was completely useless.

-- Richard
  #28  
Old April 2nd 10, 08:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian Jackson[_2_]
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In message , Richard Tobin
writes
In article ,
reslfj wrote:

It has however ensured that almost all TV displays
sold since say 2005/06, can display HD and has
a compliant HDMI input connector.


In other words they had HD-ready displays, but were not HD-ready
televisions because they were never going to be capable of receiving
HD broadcasts.

Never believe any "X-ready" description. For years televisions were
sold as "cable-ready" purely on the basis that they could handle, say,
100 channels. But they were completely unable to decode cable
transmissions, and the vast number of channels was completely useless.

As you well know, the purpose of scrambling those cable TV channels was
to restrict access - often using a proprietary form of encoding, which
had no agreed standards. It would have been impractical to build a
decoder into the set itself. Also, on the Continent, many more
unscrambled channels were transmitted 'in the clear', and the
cable-ready TV sets had no problem in receiving these.
--
Ian
  #29  
Old April 2nd 10, 09:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Richard Tobin
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In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:

Never believe any "X-ready" description. For years televisions were
sold as "cable-ready" purely on the basis that they could handle, say,
100 channels. But they were completely unable to decode cable
transmissions, and the vast number of channels was completely useless.


As you well know, the purpose of scrambling those cable TV channels was
to restrict access - often using a proprietary form of encoding, which
had no agreed standards. It would have been impractical to build a
decoder into the set itself.


Quite so. So they should not have marketed them as "cable ready" in this
country.

Also, on the Continent, many more
unscrambled channels were transmitted 'in the clear', and the
cable-ready TV sets had no problem in receiving these.


And in (parts of) the US.

-- Richard
  #30  
Old April 2nd 10, 11:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...

In other words they had HD-ready displays, but were not HD-ready
televisions because they were never going to be capable of receiving
HD broadcasts.


Beautifully put.

SteveT

 




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