Media Center PC?

"Ivan" wrote in message
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Also have a look at Boxee, Steve, I had it on my Apple TV (which I sold)
and now have it installed in Windows 7.

Thanks, Ivan - that looks very interesting.

SteveT

"sedum" wrote in message
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BBC HD recordings are not encrypted as they are on the Humax Foxsat
HDR.

I am not sure what you mean by encrypted.

BBC HD on satellite is FTA, so I think you must mean something else specific
to the Humax Foxsat HDR.

Do you mean that you cannot get the HD content out of it in an unencrypted
form, (ie that the content protection achieved by the HDMI interface is
doing what it is supposed to) but that you can record an HD copy by using a
card in your computer ?

Roger R

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:43:56 -0000, "Roger R"
wrote:


"sedum" wrote in message
.. .

BBC HD recordings are not encrypted as they are on the Humax Foxsat
HDR.

I am not sure what you mean by encrypted.

BBC HD on satellite is FTA, so I think you must mean something else specific
to the Humax Foxsat HDR.
Snip
Roger R



In Freesat mode, the Humax Foxsat HDR encrypts the BBC HD & ITV HD
content so that the recordings can only be played back on the machine
they were recorded on. I believe this is a Freesat regulation. There
are no problems with SD content.

The encrypted BBC HD files can be copied off the PVR once only to an
external USB device. These files can be played back via the same USB
port. ITV HD cannot be copied at all.

There is a non-freesat mode whereby BBC HD files are recorded without
encryption, but programs cannot be set up to record automatically.
i.e. there is no EPG.

It is for precisely these reasons that led me to go down the Media
Centre path.

David

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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In , "Roger R"
wrote:


"sedum" wrote in message
. ..

BBC HD recordings are not encrypted as they are on the Humax Foxsat
HDR.

I am not sure what you mean by encrypted.

BBC HD on satellite is FTA, so I think you must mean something else
specific
to the Humax Foxsat HDR.

Do you mean that you cannot get the HD content out of it in an unencrypted
form, (ie that the content protection achieved by the HDMI interface is
doing what it is supposed to)

Er, stop there a minute. If any HDMI interface is encrypting a FTA
broadcast, then it is NOT doing what it is supposed to. A satbox by all
means may add HDCP to the HDMI output from encrypted channels. But it has
NO business in adding HDCP encryption to what was a *FTA* broadcast! You
seem to be supporting such an over-zealous and restrictive practice, with
your "supposed to" comment; surely not?

In the case of the Foxsat (and all Freesat-slugged boxes), I believe
(IIRC) the recordings stored on the disc are encrypted. No idea about the
HDCP, but I'm alarmed at your apparent position.

Surely not.

As I understand it the HDMI interface connector cannot be implemented in
equipment without HDCP capability that ensures protected content cannot be
passed without encryption. I don't know if HDCP is 'always on'. The mode
of broadcast transmission to a set top box, FTA or Encrypted, doesn't seem
come into it, the content rights holder specifies the restrictions and
presumably HDCP is set within the content during the broadcast. If I had an
HD recorder with HDMI input connector I'd probably have a clearer
understanding of how it worked in practice.

I don't have a Humax Foxsat-HDR so what goes on with encryption of the BBC
and ITV FTA and what can be got out the USB connector was something of a
mystery to me, however 'sedum' in the adjacent post has a good explanation.

He says that the Freesat licence requires all FTA content to be encrypted
when recorded to the hard disk of the Humax box. (in the non freesat mode
it is not encrypted) Presumably this encryption is different to HDCP
encryption so that it also appears on the USB connection, but perhaps HDCP
encryption may also be additionally applied to the HDMI connector when
specified by the rights holder ?

It all sounds such a tangled web that I think 'sedum' and others have done
the right thing by going down the media centre route.

Roger R

P.S.
The aioe news server that I use was down all yesterday and my newsreader has
crossed out my earlier post as 'no longer available on the server'. A lot
of posts and some entire groups have disappeared from the server. Nothing
to do with me, perhaps all will re-appear later.