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Old March 22nd 10, 12:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
bugbear
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?

OK, the inevitable is lumbering towards me.

DVD is slowly dieing, and already there are
some films where special versions
are blu-ray only.

So I need (loosely speaking, for some value of "need")
a blu ray player.

Requirments:

* Decent picture
* Good sound (I feed my Stereo, which is good verging on esoteric)
* DVD capability, with upscaling
* HDMI output for my Toshiba

I'm guessing those are easy requirements to meet,
so - recommend away!

BugBear
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Old March 22nd 10, 12:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
bugbear
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?

bugbear wrote:
OK, the inevitable is lumbering towards me.

DVD is slowly dieing, and already there are
some films where special versions
are blu-ray only.

So I need (loosely speaking, for some value of "need")
a blu ray player.

Requirments:

* Decent picture
* Good sound (I feed my Stereo, which is good verging on esoteric)
* DVD capability, with upscaling


One more thing...

My present DVD player is multi-region (aren't they all?)

How do I stand with region coding on DVD discs
and blu-ray discs with a new player?

I have a small number of USA DVDs.

BugBear
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Old March 22nd 10, 12:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan[_4_]
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?

In message , bugbear
wrote
OK, the inevitable is lumbering towards me.

DVD is slowly dieing, and already there are
some films where special versions
are blu-ray only.

So I need (loosely speaking, for some value of "need")
a blu ray player.

Requirments:

* Decent picture
* Good sound (I feed my Stereo, which is good verging on esoteric)
* DVD capability, with upscaling
* HDMI output for my Toshiba

I'm guessing those are easy requirements to meet,
so - recommend away!


Avoid Sony. Pioneers in the technology but their players are so slow.
It's like watching paint dry waiting for a Blu-ray disk to initialise in
the player.

Watch out for the audio connections for feeding a simple stereo. Some of
the latest players may only have HDMI and/or an optical connection for
feeding Dolby digital surround sound to a suitable AV amplifier/decoder.


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Old March 22nd 10, 01:15 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?


"Alan" wrote in message
...

Avoid Sony. Pioneers in the technology but their players are so slow. It's
like watching paint dry waiting for a Blu-ray disk to initialise in the
player.


Ah, I'm glad you said that! I replaced my DVD player with a Sony Blu-ray,
and it takes flippin' ages to read a disk. Endless buzzing and clicking -
very tedious.

SteveT

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Old March 22nd 10, 02:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?



"Steve Thackery" wrote in message
...

"Alan" wrote in message
...

Avoid Sony. Pioneers in the technology but their players are so slow.
It's like watching paint dry waiting for a Blu-ray disk to initialise in
the player.


Ah, I'm glad you said that! I replaced my DVD player with a Sony Blu-ray,
and it takes flippin' ages to read a disk. Endless buzzing and clicking -
very tedious.


Visit the AV forums you will see the one I bought is highly thought of and
possibly the cheapest good one in the shops.
Sony BDP-S360 or S363 in Sony Shop.
Slow to load do not understand that statement mine loads ok.
I paid £129 and that included 3 Blue ray movies. Think Blockbuster put an
extra one in at £149.
MR was £149 at Richer Sounds.
I followed instructions to make mine MR as in the AV Forum.
Sony Shop would do it for £20.

Makes my normal DVDs look better too.
Only draw back, and that goes for all, is the shop prices of the Ble-ray
movies at 50% plus more than normal DVD, on this player I think I will stick
to buying normal DVDs they give excellent pictures via my projector.

www.avforums.com/forums/blu-ray-players/

Regards
David

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Old March 22nd 10, 03:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bigguy[_4_]
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?

On 22/03/2010 12:15, Steve Thackery wrote:

"Alan" wrote in message
...

Avoid Sony. Pioneers in the technology but their players are so slow.
It's like watching paint dry waiting for a Blu-ray disk to initialise
in the player.


Ah, I'm glad you said that! I replaced my DVD player with a Sony
Blu-ray, and it takes flippin' ages to read a disk. Endless buzzing and
clicking - very tedious.

SteveT

Yep, the Sony BDP-S350 is seriously slow to load BD disks.

Newer one my bro' got as a package with his Freesat enabled 40" Bravia
(BDP-363)? is a lot quicker.
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Old March 22nd 10, 04:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D.Smith[_2_]
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?

"bugbear" wrote in message
o.uk...
OK, the inevitable is lumbering towards me.

DVD is slowly dieing, and already there are
some films where special versions
are blu-ray only.

So I need (loosely speaking, for some value of "need")
a blu ray player.

Requirments:

* Decent picture
* Good sound (I feed my Stereo, which is good verging on esoteric)
* DVD capability, with upscaling
* HDMI output for my Toshiba

I'm guessing those are easy requirements to meet,
so - recommend away!

BugBear


Whilst "Bugbear" is out buying, can anyone recommend some setup/test
Blu-Rays to take with him? For example my "Toy Story" DVD has such things
and clearly shows that my DVD player doesn't handle the full range of
black/white shades.

The DVD actually has a screen explaining "your cheapie DVD might fail this
test, and for £20 from Asda, I wasn't surprised mine did but I'd be somewhat
"disappointed" to find a £120+ Blu-Ray suffered from similar "cheapies". So
is there a good Blu-Ray which we could ake with us to "reveal all"?

Paul DS.

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Old March 22nd 10, 04:27 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?



"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:11:24 -0000, "David" wrote:


I followed instructions to make mine MR as in the AV Forum.
Sony Shop would do it for £20.


I couldn't find that. Can you provide a specific link to the post, please?
--

This is the one I used used,
http://www.avforums.com/forums/blu-r...-part-7-a.html
You should be able to find alternative ways with other remotes in the forum.
Regards
David

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Old March 22nd 10, 05:47 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan[_4_]
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?

In message , Paul D.Smith
wrote

Whilst "Bugbear" is out buying, can anyone recommend some setup/test
Blu-Rays to take with him? For example my "Toy Story" DVD has such
things and clearly shows that my DVD player doesn't handle the full
range of black/white shades.


Is it the DVD or a flat screen TV that doesn't handle the grey scale.

The DVD actually has a screen explaining "your cheapie DVD might fail
this test, and for £20 from Asda, I wasn't surprised mine did but I'd
be somewhat "disappointed" to find a £120+ Blu-Ray suffered from
similar "cheapies". So is there a good Blu-Ray which we could ake with
us to "reveal all"?


Anything you play on the Blu-ray box will probably show the limitations
of your system rather than of the player alone.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Vide...u-ray/dp/B000V
6LST0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

The most boring Blu-ray ever produced but it does have calibration test
patterns and instructions on how to use them but explained in the most
laboriously way known to mankind.

Read the first 4 reviews at
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Vide...u-ray/dp/B000V
6LST0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top


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Old March 22nd 10, 05:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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Default blu ray player - recommendation?


"David" wrote in message
...

Visit the AV forums you will see the one I bought is highly thought of and
possibly the cheapest good one in the shops.
Sony BDP-S360 or S363 in Sony Shop.


Well, mine is definitely the S360 and I think it's dreadful. Here are some
timings:

1/ From switched off to opening the tray: 20s

2/ To load and start playing a DVD: 16s

3/ Delay when pressing the 'jump forward' key: 2.5s

All of these seem ridiculously long.

Here is the dire story of loading 'Inglourious Basterds' on
Blu-Ray..........

Starting with an open tray, and pressing the play button:

1/ The appearance of 00:00:00 on the display: 23s

2/ The appearance of 'Loading' on the screen: 50s

3/ The films intro screen starts playing: 1m 08s

Over a minute to start playing the film! That's terrible. Personally I
really regret buying it.

SteveT

 




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