Internet, proxy servers (OT)

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:31:14 -0000, "Graham." wrote:



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On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:30:14 -0000, "tim...."
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How do you know Sweetheart is female?

Would you call yourself sweetheart, ducky?

Sweetheart is the name of my guinea pig but I am female. Thanks.

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When I saw the original post, I assumed that the o/p had used "ISP",
instead of I/P address.

Nobody can find out anything by knowing your ISP, unlike the I/P address.

I dont know the difference. I just want to hide whichever it is that
indentifies me and my computer preferably without moving from BT. Other than
that I have been told to get a different provider on a mobile system but
thats expensive and seems a waste of money for nothing really. I already pay
out for BT.

"sweetheart" wrote in message
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"Ian" wrote in message
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In message , Paul D.Smith
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"sweetheart" wrote in message

When I saw the original post, I assumed that the o/p had used "ISP",
instead of I/P address.

Nobody can find out anything by knowing your ISP, unlike the I/P address.

I dont know the difference. I just want to hide whichever it is that
indentifies me and my computer preferably without moving from BT. Other
than that I have been told to get a different provider on a mobile system
but thats expensive and seems a waste of money for nothing really. I
already pay out for BT.

I ought to add to this I have a firewall up which I thought should prevent
any kind of identification ( thought wrong obviously).

The other probably daft question to you would be is it my computer or my
telephone line that gets recognised? I have another computer ( lap top)
which I have never used to connect to the internet but it would still have
to go through my BT line.

I just want to know how other people have got round this issue. There must
be a way round if you know ( which I don't) as people are doing it all the
time.

"sweetheart" wrote in message
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"sweetheart" wrote in message
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"Ian" wrote in message
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In message , Paul D.Smith
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"sweetheart" wrote in message

When I saw the original post, I assumed that the o/p had used "ISP",
instead of I/P address.

Nobody can find out anything by knowing your ISP, unlike the I/P
address.

I dont know the difference. I just want to hide whichever it is that
indentifies me and my computer preferably without moving from BT. Other
than that I have been told to get a different provider on a mobile system
but thats expensive and seems a waste of money for nothing really. I
already pay out for BT.

I ought to add to this I have a firewall up which I thought should
prevent any kind of identification ( thought wrong obviously).

The other probably daft question to you would be is it my computer or my
telephone line that gets recognised? I have another computer ( lap top)
which I have never used to connect to the internet but it would still have
to go through my BT line.

I just want to know how other people have got round this issue. There
must be a way round if you know ( which I don't) as people are doing it
all the time.

I cannot understand how they are doing this. I have checked my own IP
address and BT use a dynamic one according to their web site ? I checked
it, it has changed from the one I used this morning. It keeps changing, so
how are they identifying me? Anyone with technical knowledge help me out
here? Loads of people use BT, how can they get me through that?

If I use a proxy server will that cover everything up? Help please

"sweetheart" wrote in message
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I cannot understand how they are doing this. I have checked my own IP
address and BT use a dynamic one according to their web site ? I checked
it, it has changed from the one I used this morning. It keeps changing, so
how are they identifying me? Anyone with technical knowledge help me out
here? Loads of people use BT, how can they get me through that?

Before getting involved in proxey servers and I/P 's how about considering
that the site has put some tracking cookie on your machine that identifies
it.

Install CCleaner on your machine and use it to clean your computer:
http://www.piriform.com/
It's perfectly safe and easy to use and you will still be able to use your
machine with sites that use cookies for on-line shopping.
Use it every day !

It should enable you to return to the site as virgin user with no history.
Perhaps that will solve your troubles.

Roger R

sweetheart wrote:

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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:34:20 -0000, "tim...."
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But she said that the alternative to hiding her BT ISP behind a proxy,
was to change her ISP to something else

Therefore I assume that there is a problem with her ISP being BT other
than because it is hers.

I will try and explain but this may sound more sinister than it is. I
use my computer to write to a social networking group/message board.
There was a bit of a hassle there and someone identified me in RL and
got me banned. Don't ask for details please. Anyway, I changed names and
thought it would be OK. Lots of people on this site have got banned and
returned under other names. However the site are using my IP address to
" recognise" me and all my new " names" get deleted - although I think
that someone might be guessing at it being me and are reporting it first
because one name lasted several months and another ( because it was one
I had used years ago) got deleted immediately) . I haven't done
anything to hurt anyone and I am genuine. I just got tied up in this
hassle accidently. The board is moderated obviously. You do not have to
say much to be banned!

I found out that most of those who return successfully are changing ISP
or using a proxy server ( I think) . I just want to know how it works. I
don't want to change ISP's. I just want to hide it so they cannot trace
posts back to me.

As I said, it sounds more sinister than it really is.

Thanks for any help.

Blimey! The worst forum I know of is rigorously policed by the Gestapo
force of the London Borough of Redbridge:

http://www.redbridge.gov.uk/forum/

You seem to have found one that's worse!

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Terry

On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:57:40 +0000, SweetHeart explained:

Sweetheart is the name of my guinea pig but I am female.

Is the guinea pig male or female?

Roger R wrote:
"sweetheart" wrote in message
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I cannot understand how they are doing this. I have checked my own IP
address and BT use a dynamic one according to their web site ? I checked
it, it has changed from the one I used this morning. It keeps changing, so
how are they identifying me? Anyone with technical knowledge help me out
here? Loads of people use BT, how can they get me through that?

Before getting involved in proxey servers and I/P 's how about considering
that the site has put some tracking cookie on your machine that identifies
it.

Install CCleaner on your machine and use it to clean your computer:
http://www.piriform.com/
It's perfectly safe and easy to use and you will still be able to use your
machine with sites that use cookies for on-line shopping.
Use it every day !

It should enable you to return to the site as virgin user with no history.
Perhaps that will solve your troubles.


If that doesn't work, there are a couple of other things you can try:

I assume that you are not using the same e-mail address to register
under different names? (My local government Gestapo regulated forum
won't let you do that.)

If you are, change it! (Most ISPs allow you lots of e-mail addresses and
you can always use hotmail, yahoo, etc.,)

Perhaps they're being really devious and logging your MAC (Media Access
Control) address, which is a unique address allocated to every network
adaptor. If they've logged the address of your BT network adaptor/router
(in which case, you've really got a problem) it will be the MAC address
of your PC's network adaptor.

You mentioned another PC - try that instead and see what happens.
Alternatively, how is your current PC connected to BT? Are their any
alternatives? For example, if you have a wireless connection, what
physical (USB, Ethernet) connectivity is there? Most PCs have 3 methods
of connecting to the internet these days - Wireless, USB, Ethernet - and
each interface has a unique MAC address, so if you use a different
connector, your MAC address will change.

Good luck!

(My money's on the tracking cookie theory, though)

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Terry

"Terry Casey" wrote in message
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Roger R wrote:
"sweetheart" wrote in message
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I cannot understand how they are doing this. I have checked my own IP
address and BT use a dynamic one according to their web site ? I
checked
it, it has changed from the one I used this morning. It keeps changing,
so
how are they identifying me? Anyone with technical knowledge help me
out
here? Loads of people use BT, how can they get me through that?

Before getting involved in proxey servers and I/P 's how about
considering
that the site has put some tracking cookie on your machine that
identifies
it.

Install CCleaner on your machine and use it to clean your computer:
http://www.piriform.com/
It's perfectly safe and easy to use and you will still be able to use
your
machine with sites that use cookies for on-line shopping.
Use it every day !

It should enable you to return to the site as virgin user with no
history.
Perhaps that will solve your troubles.

I have installed it and will now try it out. Thanks for the suggestion.


If that doesn't work, there are a couple of other things you can try:

I assume that you are not using the same e-mail address to register under
different names? (My local government Gestapo regulated forum won't let
you do that.)

Each time I have re registered using a hotmail address. I did register one
with my BT sub e mail accounts . Trouble is I cannot remember the password
so I am not using it. But I know they could not have found it ( as I dont
use it) and they send me e mails inviting me to their site on it still.

If you are, change it! (Most ISPs allow you lots of e-mail addresses and
you can always use hotmail, yahoo, etc.,)

Perhaps they're being really devious and logging your MAC (Media Access
Control) address, which is a unique address allocated to every network
adaptor. If they've logged the address of your BT network adaptor/router
(in which case, you've really got a problem) it will be the MAC address of
your PC's network adaptor.

You mentioned another PC - try that instead and see what happens.

I have a lap top ( other computer) but I would still have to use the same
router. I only have one of those.

Alternatively, how is your current PC connected to BT?

I connect via a BT voyager cable link to broadband.

Are their any
alternatives?

Not unless I buy another one especially.

For example, if you have a wireless connection, what
physical (USB, Ethernet) connectivity is there? Most PCs have 3 methods of
connecting to the internet these days - Wireless, USB, Ethernet - and each
interface has a unique MAC address, so if you use a different connector,
your MAC address will change.

So if all else fails you are suggesting that if I get a BT home hub ( wi fi)
they shouldnt be able to identify me?

Thanks for the info

"Roger R" wrote in message
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"sweetheart" wrote in message
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I cannot understand how they are doing this. I have checked my own IP
address and BT use a dynamic one according to their web site ? I checked
it, it has changed from the one I used this morning. It keeps changing,
so
how are they identifying me? Anyone with technical knowledge help me out
here? Loads of people use BT, how can they get me through that?

Before getting involved in proxey servers and I/P 's how about considering
that the site has put some tracking cookie on your machine that identifies
it.

Install CCleaner on your machine and use it to clean your computer:
http://www.piriform.com/
It's perfectly safe and easy to use and you will still be able to use your
machine with sites that use cookies for on-line shopping.
Use it every day !

It should enable you to return to the site as virgin user with no history.
Perhaps that will solve your troubles.


I have downloaded it and will try it. Thank you