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Old March 9th 10, 11:52 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
Mark Carver
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Ivan wrote:

Which seems a pity, as along with the World Cup, IMO it would also
provide a boost for the fledgling DVB T2 service.


You've got to view it from F1's perspective, the UK's tiny little DVB-T2 and
FTA HD markets mean virtually nothing to them. Just as 16:9 SD output did for
many years, because the UK, rather eccentrically as viewed internationally,
stood alone for the early part of the last decade with 16:9 FHA mainstream
broadcasts.


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Old March 10th 10, 12:33 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:52:46 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

Just as 16:9 SD output did for many years, because the UK, rather
eccentrically as viewed internationally


I thought that there was even an EU fund to promote the production
of material in 16:9 widescreen (originally for broadcast using the PAL
plus system)?

Or is my recollection in error?

From document at http://aei.pitt.edu/archive/00003059/01/000063.PDF

The Action Plan for the Introduction of Advanced Television Services in
Europe was established by the Council Decision of 22 July 199 with the
objective of ensuring the accelerated development of the market for
advanced television services in Europe using the wide-screen 16:9 format.

The approach is based on stimulating the broadcasting and programme
productionelements in the value chain so that all the different actors
and elements in the television services chain necessary to deliver 16:9
services to the home can fall into place. This is acondition for
achieving the accelerated development of the market for 16:9 services.

Community funds of up to *228 MECU* were foreseen for the period mid-1993
until mid-1997 in order to contribute towards the additional costs of
introducing the 16:9 format. Broadcasters and Programme Producers were
entitled to apply for this funding through calls for proposal.
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Old March 10th 10, 08:24 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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J G Miller wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:52:46 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

Just as 16:9 SD output did for many years, because the UK, rather
eccentrically as viewed internationally


I thought that there was even an EU fund to promote the production
of material in 16:9 widescreen (originally for broadcast using the PAL
plus system)?


There might well have have been, but name me one EU broadcaster other than our
own that were routinely broadcasting 16:9 FHA on DVB platforms 10 years ago ?

I agree the Germans and Benelux mob were broadcasting in PAL+, but that was
about it.

Production and transmission are two different things !



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Old March 10th 10, 10:00 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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"UnsteadyKen" wrote:

Ivan said...

Does anyone know if formula one will be shown in HD this year, or will it be
as slow in coming as it was with widescreen?


No. The BBC says:

"We will not be able to provide F1 coverage in high definition this
year. The BBC relies on Formula 1 Management (FOM) for the provision of
all of its live pictures and as such the broadcasting of high
definition pictures is dependent upon whether FOM uses HD cameras or
not."


And at present, FOM don't have HD cameras, and AFAIK have no plans to
introduce them anytime soon.

Sadly, we've lost one of the red button channels due to the DVB HD
start up, so the on board is going split screen this year, but on the
bright side we still get all the practice sessions on 301.




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Old March 10th 10, 11:27 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
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J G Miller wrote:


The Action Plan for the Introduction of Advanced Television Services in
Europe was established by the Council Decision of 22 July 199 with the
objective of ensuring the accelerated development of the market for
advanced television services in Europe using the wide-screen 16:9 format.



Gosh, almost 2000 years ago and still no outcome (he he)

Mike

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Old March 10th 10, 02:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
J G Miller[_4_]
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:24:15 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

There might well have have been, but name me one EU broadcaster other
than our own that were routinely broadcasting 16:9 FHA on DVB platforms
10 years ago ?


10 years ago, other EU broadcaster had not yet installed a DVB-t
transmission platform.

10 years on, 9 other European nations have completed analog switchoff
and large areas of France are also switched off, but the UKofGB&NI
has so far only switched off one region with metropolitan counties,
and Wales is almost there, with the most populous part just about to be
completed.

I agree the Germans and Benelux mob were broadcasting in PAL+, but that
was about it.


Yes so they were transmitting in widescreen, and it was not just
the UKofGB&NI.

Of course the whole point of the EU funding was to promote the
production of 16:9 material, and once it became standard, the
funding was withdrawn because it was no longer needed.
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Old March 10th 10, 03:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.broadcast
Mark Carver
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J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:24:15 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

There might well have have been, but name me one EU broadcaster other
than our own that were routinely broadcasting 16:9 FHA on DVB platforms
10 years ago ?


10 years ago, other EU broadcaster had not yet installed a DVB-t
transmission platform.


No, but plenty were on DVB-S



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