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Old March 8th 10, 06:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
sweetheart
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I know this is not the domain of TV techs but I don't know who might be
techie enough to know.

I use BT as my ISP. I have heard that it is possible to hide your ISP in
places you might not want to be recognised or for security. ( proxy
servers?) Is this true? Will it definitely hide an ISP so you cannot be
identified? Or would it be better just to change ISP's?

Can you suggest a good proxy server or a mobile dongle that doesn't cost the
earth?

Thanks

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Old March 8th 10, 06:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Oh no it's that Idiot again!!!
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:34:03 -0000, sweetheart btinternet.com wrote:

I know this is not the domain of TV techs but I don't know who might be
techie enough to know.

I use BT as my ISP. I have heard that it is possible to hide your ISP
in places you might not want to be recognised or for security. ( proxy
servers?) Is this true? Will it definitely hide an ISP so you cannot be
identified? Or would it be better just to change ISP's?

Can you suggest a good proxy server or a mobile dongle that doesn't cost
the earth?

Thanks


It's all about the settings you make in your browser.

http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?p...pnum=1#ta ble

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Old March 8th 10, 06:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:34:03 +0000, SweetHeart wrote:

I have heard that it is possible to hide your ISP in places you might
not want to be recognised or for security.


Merely using a proxy does not provide any real level of anonymity, just
superficial anonymity.

You should be looking at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)

http://www.freehaven.NET (home of TOR "onion routing" project)
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Old March 8th 10, 09:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:34:03 +0000, SweetHeart wrote:

I have heard that it is possible to hide your ISP in places you might
not want to be recognised or for security.


Merely using a proxy does not provide any real level of anonymity, just
superficial anonymity.

You should be looking at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)

http://www.freehaven.NET (home of TOR "onion routing" project)


TOR doesn't make someone anonymous, it helps prevent network analysis.
It's not secure and rogue operators exist to read everything passing through
in the hunt for personal details etc. You would also need to switch off
active-x and java, then destroy ALL cookies or you will be traced. It's
really not worth doing as there is no guarantee that what you do will keep
you anonymous.
TOR is extremely slow and people filter out certain types of traffic. Also
be aware that in some countries everything is logged. So it shows your
full history in case you are thinking fo doing something naughty!
Think again as your ISP records every site you visit too.


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Old March 8th 10, 10:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David Taylor
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On 2010-03-08, TJ wrote:

Think again as your ISP records every site you visit too.


Mine certainly doesn't.

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Old March 8th 10, 10:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"sweetheart" wrote in message
...
I know this is not the domain of TV techs but I don't know who might be
techie enough to know.

I use BT as my ISP. I have heard that it is possible to hide your ISP in
places you might not want to be recognised or for security. ( proxy
servers?) Is this true? Will it definitely hide an ISP so you cannot be
identified? Or would it be better just to change ISP's?


Why would you want to hide the fact that your ISP is BT?

(I understand the reasons for hiding your ISP, whoever they are, but I can't
see why you would want to hide one specific one)

tim


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Old March 8th 10, 11:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"tim...." wrote in message ...

"sweetheart" wrote in message ...
I know this is not the domain of TV techs but I don't know who might be techie enough to know.

I use BT as my ISP. I have heard that it is possible to hide your ISP in places you might not want to be recognised or for
security. ( proxy servers?) Is this true? Will it definitely hide an ISP so you cannot be identified? Or would it be better
just to change ISP's?


Why would you want to hide the fact that your ISP is BT?

(I understand the reasons for hiding your ISP, whoever they are, but I can't see why you would want to hide one specific one)


My ISP is BE and I don't care who knows it
My previous ISP was Tiscali, but I kept quiet about that.
I'm not at all sure why I am mentioning it now ;-)

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Old March 9th 10, 12:25 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:09:04 +0000, TJ wrote:

You would also need to switch off active-x and java


Some of us never ever have active-x switched on (because it is
not needed), and people who do deserve to become part of botnets.

From http://www.torproject.ORG/download.html.en

QUOTE

Tor anonymizes the origin of your traffic, and it encrypts everything
between you and the Tor network and everything inside the Tor network,
but it can't encrypt your traffic between the Tor network and its final
destination. If you are communicating sensitive information, you should
use as much care as you would on the normal scary Internet — use HTTPS
or other end-to-end encryption and authentication.

UNQUOTE

rogue operators exist to read everything passing through

in the hunt for personal details etc.

If the data is encrypted on the Tor network, how do these rogue operators
read everything that is passing through?
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Old March 9th 10, 12:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
tim....
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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:34:20 -0000, "tim...."
wrote:


"sweetheart" wrote in message
.. .
I know this is not the domain of TV techs but I don't know who might be
techie enough to know.

I use BT as my ISP. I have heard that it is possible to hide your ISP
in
places you might not want to be recognised or for security. ( proxy
servers?) Is this true? Will it definitely hide an ISP so you cannot be
identified? Or would it be better just to change ISP's?


Why would you want to hide the fact that your ISP is BT?

(I understand the reasons for hiding your ISP, whoever they are, but I
can't
see why you would want to hide one specific one)


because that is the one sweetheart uses.


But she said that the alternative to hiding her BT ISP behind a proxy, was
to change her ISP to something else

Therefore I assume that there is a problem with her ISP being BT other than
because it is hers.

tim


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Old March 9th 10, 12:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D.Smith[_2_]
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"sweetheart" wrote in message
...
I know this is not the domain of TV techs but I don't know who might be
techie enough to know.

I use BT as my ISP. I have heard that it is possible to hide your ISP in
places you might not want to be recognised or for security. ( proxy
servers?) Is this true? Will it definitely hide an ISP so you cannot be
identified? Or would it be better just to change ISP's?

Can you suggest a good proxy server or a mobile dongle that doesn't cost
the earth?

Thanks


Why would you want to? No seriously, we need to know what you want to do
before we can suggest ways of doing it.

Paul DS.

 




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