BBC 6 Music and Asian Network face axe in shake-up

charles wrote:
In article ,
J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:05:35 +0100, Martin wrote:

They have always had that via steam radio.

To an extent yes, but that was always regarded as being somehow
unpatriotic and the neighbors, if they found out, might report you to the
police because they actually believed it was illegal and not covered by
the wireless receiving licence.

The Radio Times, long ago, used to list foreign broadcasts (mostly
concerts) which they thought might be of interest, so it can't have been
that 'naughty' to listen to them.


Ah yes! One of the French networks broadcast concerts in stereo from two
AM transmitters. I can't remember which but it is so long ago that
Radio Times printed their wavelengths in metres, rather than frequencies!

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Terry

Martin wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:10:34 +0100, J G Miller wrote:

On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:05:35 +0100, Martin wrote:

They have always had that via steam radio.
To an extent yes, but that was always regarded as being
somehow unpatriotic and the neighbors, if they found out,
might report you to the police because they actually
believed it was illegal and not covered by the wireless
receiving licence.

The appearance of long wires or large HF arrays in the
back garden usually prompted gossip of being a foreign
agent or just mentally deranged.

Not if skillfully disguised as washing lines. )

You have always been able to receive Belgium Dutch French etc. stations on
medium and long wave.

You forgot Luxembourg ...!

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Terry

On 3 Mar, 18:10, J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:05:35 +0100, Martin wrote:
They have always had that via steam radio.

To an extent yes, but that was always regarded as being
somehow unpatriotic and the neighbors, if they found out,
might report you to the police because they actually
believed it was illegal and not covered by the wireless
receiving licence.

The appearance of long wires or large HF arrays in the
back garden usually prompted gossip of being a foreign
agent or just mentally deranged.

Lots of people listened to shortwave in the Cold War, but are only now
admitting to it... it was considered to be a bit naughty at the time,
plenty of SW radio's in the shops then though. You didn't need a
special outside aerial either, plenty stations came in just with the
built-in rod, like you use now for FM or DAB. There are still some SW
stations around today, such as China Radio International, which seems
to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda, and Voice of Russia is good for a
non-US view of world events.

"alexander.keys1" wrote in message
...
There are still some SW
stations around today, such as China Radio International, which seems
to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda, and Voice of Russia is good for a
non-US view of world events.

Still some ????

There are still hundreds.

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Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

To email me remove the letter vee.

On Mar 8, 7:11*pm, "alexander.keys1"
wrote:
On 3 Mar, 18:10, J G Miller wrote:
Lots of people listened to shortwave in the Cold War, but are only now
admitting to it... it was considered to be a bit naughty at the time,
plenty of SW radio's in the shops then though.

My dad used to say that my name would be in a big book and one day
'they'd' come for me.

You didn't need a
special outside aerial either, plenty stations came in just with the
built-in rod, like you use now for FM or DAB. There are still some SW
stations around today, such as China Radio International, which seems
to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda, and Voice of Russia is good for a
non-US view of world events.
As is the BBC I hope.

Bill

On 8 Mar, 19:34, "
wrote:
On Mar 8, 7:11*pm, "alexander.keys1"
wrote:

On 3 Mar, 18:10, J G Miller wrote:
Lots of people listened to shortwave in the Cold War, but are only now
admitting to it... it was considered to be a bit naughty at the time,
plenty of SW radio's in the shops then though.

My dad used to say that my name would be in a big book and one day
'they'd' come for me.

You didn't need a
special outside aerial either, plenty stations came in just with the
built-in rod, like you use now for FM or DAB. There are still some SW
stations around today, such as China Radio International, which seems
to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda, and Voice of Russia is good for a
non-US view of world events.

As is the BBC I hope.

Bill

No chance, they have always been pro-US as long as I can remember,
that and the resemblence of THE SIX O'CLOCK NEWS to a Party Political
Broadcast for the Conservative Party was the reason I listened to SW,
there was Radio Netherlands, Voice of America as well as the Commies,
Moscow, Prague, Polonia etc, RN were the best for news about the Third
World, instead of the racist propaganda from the BBC's domestic
services.

The BBC World Service OTOH puts out a compeletely different slant to
the stuff for home consumption, now on DAB in the UK, I imagine some
people would prefer that it wasn't, and still on SW to Africa. It was
said at the time, and it's still true now, that listeners to BBC WS in
Africa are better informed of world events than viewers of THE SIX
O'CLOCK NEWS in the UK.

"alexander.keys1" wrote in message
...
On 3 Mar, 18:10, J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:05:35 +0100, Martin wrote:
They have always had that via steam radio.

To an extent yes, but that was always regarded as being
somehow unpatriotic and the neighbors, if they found out,
might report you to the police because they actually
believed it was illegal and not covered by the wireless
receiving licence.

The appearance of long wires or large HF arrays in the
back garden usually prompted gossip of being a foreign
agent or just mentally deranged.

Lots of people listened to shortwave in the Cold War, but are only now
admitting to it... it was considered to be a bit naughty at the time,
plenty of SW radio's in the shops then though. You didn't need a
special outside aerial either, plenty stations came in just with the
built-in rod, like you use now for FM or DAB. There are still some SW
stations around today, such as China Radio International, which seems
to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda, and Voice of Russia is good for a
non-US view of world events.

I still have somewhere the programme schedules and QSLs that the likes
of Radio Moscow and Radio Peking sent to me when I listened in the early
'60. It was no was more illegal to listen to foreign stations in the 31 & 41 metre-bands etc
than it was to listen on MW & LW. VHF was a bit of a grey area as the half
above 100Mhz was allocated to the "User Services", notably Police (traffic) and Fire Service
Another gray area was some overseas broadcasting appeared to be out of band,
for example Kol Yisroel on 9009Khz which was surrounded my civil aviation company
frequencies IIRC
What was "not talked about" at the time but now is, was tuning in to military and
intelligence networks but even that is "out" now as the BBC itself made a very good
programme about the informous "Number Stations"
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page485.htm

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

alexander.keys1 wrote:
On 3 Mar, 18:10, J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:05:35 +0100, Martin wrote:
They have always had that via steam radio.
To an extent yes, but that was always regarded as being
somehow unpatriotic and the neighbors, if they found out,
might report you to the police because they actually
believed it was illegal and not covered by the wireless
receiving licence.

The appearance of long wires or large HF arrays in the
back garden usually prompted gossip of being a foreign
agent or just mentally deranged.

Lots of people listened to shortwave in the Cold War, but are only now
admitting to it... it was considered to be a bit naughty at the time,
plenty of SW radio's in the shops then though. You didn't need a
special outside aerial either, plenty stations came in just with the
built-in rod, like you use now for FM or DAB. There are still some SW
stations around today, such as China Radio International, which seems
to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda, and Voice of Russia is good for a
non-US view of world events.


They should launch 'BBC Radio White British Man'

See what happens.

Seriously though, hopefully BBC Alba and BBC Radio 1 Xtra will go next.

On Mar 8, 7:11 pm, "alexander.keys1"
wrote:
On 3 Mar, 18:10, J G Miller wrote:
Lots of people listened to shortwave in the Cold War, but are only now
admitting to it... it was considered to be a bit naughty at the time,
plenty of SW radio's in the shops then though.

My dad used to say that my name would be in a big book and one day
'they'd' come for me.


When my first QSL card and schedule from Moscow arrived, the envelope was already open.
When I complained my Dad said it wasn't he or my Mother that had opened it,
it would have been "censors" at the GPO. I don't if he lied, but subsequent correspondence arrived
intact.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Monday, March 8th, 2010 at 11:11:07h -0800,
Alexander Keys 1 explained:

it was considered to be a bit naughty at the time,

Which was the point I was trying to make

plenty of SW radio's in the shops then though.

Yes, and now there are hardly any manufacturers of them.

There are still some SW stations around today, such as China Radio
International, which seems to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda,

It is certainly of the pro-PRC propaganda orientation, but it
is not that blatant, and certainly much more sophisticated than
Radio Beijing of former times.

and Voice of Russia is good for a non-US view of world events.

One of the few remaining European stations broadcasting
to Europe on the HF bands. If you want to hear it more
reliably and in better quality there is always the segment
on WRN