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Old February 22nd 10, 05:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jeff Layman[_2_]
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?

"Tim" wrote in message
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It will get turned off and then she won't know
what's gone wrong. For the same reason, I don't think "active" powered
speakers plugged into a line-out socket will work for her either.


Then wire the TV and active speaker into a junction box and take a single
lead out to a mains plug (I definitely would not wire the TV and active
speaker power leads into one plug!). If necessary, solder a short-circuit
lead across any on/off switch the active speaker has. In that way it will
not be possible to turn off the active speaker unless the TV is turned off
at the mains too.

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  #12  
Old February 22nd 10, 06:25 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?

On 22 Feb, 15:27, "Tim" wrote:
PJ wrote:
Tim wrote:
She has been tried with newer hearing aids but can't (or won't) get
on with them.


Tim


Many TVs have earphone sockets which if combined with wireless
headphones give a clear sound without disturbing neighbours.


Wireless is probably a step too far. *That would mean a powered transmitter
and headphones that would need a charger or batteries. *That's just not
going to work with her.

She doesn't need the telly to be *loud*, just clearer it seems. *She
certainly never has it on loud when we visit.

Tim


Has anyone thought about going to the council adult services
department. Theycan put you in touch with people such as Telecare who
provide all sorts of aids for the elderly and infirm and that may
include enhancements to TV sound etc.

It's worth a call.

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Old February 22nd 10, 07:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?

In article , Tim wrote:
She doesn't need the telly to be *loud*, just clearer it seems. She
certainly never has it on loud when we visit.


I find a pair of Bowers & Wilkins DM2 bass reflex loudspeakers can be
exactly that - clear even with the sound turned down quite low.

They're a bit big, though...

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Old February 22nd 10, 09:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?

"Tim" wrote in message
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Do many (or any) modern LCD TVs come with external speaker
sockets that can drive a speaker (or speakers) directly (i.e.
with no amp)?

My wife's very elderly aunt no longer has analogue and can't
cope with a separate freeview box but doesn't want a new telly
as "I can't hear those new flat TVs". She has got a working
freeview box but she just can't cope with a TV *and* a separate
box.

She's very deaf and wears an old fashioned chest worn hearing
aid. She won't have a loop aerial system but she misses her
TV.

I think the only way of restoring watchable and listenable
telly is to find one that can take an external speaker to
improve the sound quality and I think an external amp will just
be too complicated, no matter how well tucked out of the way.
It will get turned off and then she won't know what's gone
wrong. For the same reason, I don't think "active" powered
speakers plugged into a line-out socket will work for her
either.

Of course she's not tried lots of different LCD TVs so if
anyone can recoomend one that has particularly good sound
quality, that might work for her. Taking her around TV
show-rooms isn't really an option alas. She hates the
electrical "noise" that I think her hearing aid picks up in
many places.

Tim






Simple solution - buy a (relatively) inexpensive set of computer
speakers and plug them into the headphone outlet, then the volume
on the remote will still work.

My wife has a hearing deficiency (not actual deafness) and she
had much trouble with out Philips (CRT) TV with sideways facing
speakers. My son decided to upgrade his computer speakers so I
grabbed the old ones and connected up. Not only is the overall
quality much better, but because the speakers are small they
stand at the side of the TV (sub-woofer incorporating amp around
the back) they direct the (very clear) sound exactly where it is
needed. The amp pulls so little power we don't even bither to
turn it off when it is not in use.


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Old February 22nd 10, 10:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I have many customers like your aunt (and my own aunt fits the
description exactly, it isn't her is it??!)
The following works very well and I have arranged the same set-up many
times now:

Use good but simple amplified speakers. (not the computer ones, they
are much too fiddly)

I use these all the time:

http://cpc.farnell.com/pulse/pls0016...ack/dp/LS03357

They are "real" speakers, quite powerful and have a very wide range of
adjustment for bass and treble.
The controls are on the back and can be taped to stop them being
moved.
The mains is integral so there is no seperate transformer.

You need the volume to be controled by the TV remote, so it is best to
use the headphone socket on the TV and that will almost always change
with the volume setting.

One speaker contains the amp etc and the other one is just passive and
connects to it, so, if you like, you can use a stereo to mono lead and
feed both left and right channels to the one speaker and not use the
other one.

Sometimes, very succesfully, I use just one speaker and place it near
the user with a tidy wire from the TV.
Most people can hear it much better like that, and also can use it
quieter. (The only trouble with this method is you need a mains supply
for the speaker nearer the chair. (The first time I did this was for
my grandmother as an experiment. I put the speaker behind her chair
just below head height where she couldn't see it. The results were
perfect)

If the speaker(s) are near the TV, I would plug them and the TV both
into a socket board and tape both in so they will always be powered up
together. It really doesn't matter much if the speakers are left
powered up if need be.

Hope this helps.




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Old February 23rd 10, 04:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?

"Tim" wrote in message
...
Do many (or any) modern LCD TVs come with external speaker sockets that
can drive a speaker (or speakers) directly (i.e. with no amp)?

My wife's very elderly aunt no longer has analogue and can't cope with a
separate freeview box but doesn't want a new telly as "I can't hear those
new flat TVs". She has got a working freeview box but she just can't cope
with a TV *and* a separate box.

She's very deaf and wears an old fashioned chest worn hearing aid. She
won't have a loop aerial system but she misses her TV.

I think the only way of restoring watchable and listenable telly is to
find one that can take an external speaker to improve the sound quality
and I think an external amp will just be too complicated, no matter how
well tucked out of the way. It will get turned off and then she won't
know what's gone wrong. For the same reason, I don't think "active"
powered speakers plugged into a line-out socket will work for her either.


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Old February 23rd 10, 09:40 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?

Sounds to me like a new hearing aid is what she needs, not a telly with
external speakers.

I remember those hearing aids, they used to whistle all the time and yet the
wearer could never hear it, just complain that the batteries always want
down fast tand everyone was talking through socks.


I'd suggest cordless headphones but I think the battery aspect of these
would be a problem.

I seem to recall some tvs with had detachable speakers, but how far the
detachableness goes and if said speakers are any good, I've no idea.

Brian

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"Tim" wrote in message
...
Do many (or any) modern LCD TVs come with external speaker sockets that
can drive a speaker (or speakers) directly (i.e. with no amp)?

My wife's very elderly aunt no longer has analogue and can't cope with a
separate freeview box but doesn't want a new telly as "I can't hear those
new flat TVs". She has got a working freeview box but she just can't cope
with a TV *and* a separate box.

She's very deaf and wears an old fashioned chest worn hearing aid. She
won't have a loop aerial system but she misses her TV.

I think the only way of restoring watchable and listenable telly is to
find one that can take an external speaker to improve the sound quality
and I think an external amp will just be too complicated, no matter how
well tucked out of the way. It will get turned off and then she won't
know what's gone wrong. For the same reason, I don't think "active"
powered speakers plugged into a line-out socket will work for her either.

Of course she's not tried lots of different LCD TVs so if anyone can
recoomend one that has particularly good sound quality, that might work
for her. Taking her around TV show-rooms isn't really an option alas.
She hates the electrical "noise" that I think her hearing aid picks up in
many places.

Tim





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Old February 23rd 10, 09:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?

Well, there is no way to help someone who won't help themselves of course.
Often its very advantageous to look at the earpieces on hearing aids every
month or so to get rid of the debris in there which often restores the sound
amazingly.

Brian

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"Tim" wrote in message
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David wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
Do many (or any) modern LCD TVs come with external speaker sockets
that can drive a speaker (or speakers) directly (i.e. with no amp)?

My wife's very elderly aunt no longer has analogue and can't cope
with a separate freeview box but doesn't want a new telly as "I
can't hear those new flat TVs". She has got a working freeview box
but she just can't cope with a TV *and* a separate box.

She's very deaf and wears an old fashioned chest worn hearing aid. She
won't have a loop aerial system but she misses her TV.

I think the only way of restoring watchable and listenable telly is
to find one that can take an external speaker to improve the sound
quality and I think an external amp will just be too complicated, no
matter how well tucked out of the way. It will get turned off and
then she won't know what's gone wrong. For the same reason, I don't
think "active" powered speakers plugged into a line-out socket will
work for her either. Of course she's not tried lots of different LCD TVs
so if anyone can
recoomend one that has particularly good sound quality, that might
work for her. Taking her around TV show-rooms isn't really an
option alas. She hates the electrical "noise" that I think her
hearing aid picks up in many places.

The best thing and it is free is for her to go to her Doctors and
have a test and fitting for modern NHS hearing aid.
My wife has them it thinks they are marvelous.


I'm willing to bet that your wife isn't 97 and rather set in her ways. ;-)

She has been tried with newer hearing aids but can't (or won't) get on
with them.

Tim





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Old February 23rd 10, 11:50 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?

In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Sounds to me like a new hearing aid is what she needs, not a telly with
external speakers.


I remember those hearing aids, they used to whistle all the time and yet
the wearer could never hear it, just complain that the batteries always
want down fast tand everyone was talking through socks.



I'd suggest cordless headphones but I think the battery aspect of these
would be a problem.


Surely the obvious answer is good comfortable 'open' corded headphones
with an extension lead if needed? No batteries to go flat. No point in
using a hearing aid with speakers when headphones would do the job better.

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Old February 23rd 10, 09:25 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default TVs with external speaker sockets?


"Tim" wrote in message
...
PJ wrote:
Tim wrote:
She has been tried with newer hearing aids but can't (or won't) get
on with them.

Tim

Many TVs have earphone sockets which if combined with wireless
headphones give a clear sound without disturbing neighbours.


Wireless is probably a step too far. That would mean a powered
transmitter and headphones that would need a charger or batteries. That's
just not going to work with her.

She doesn't need the telly to be *loud*, just clearer it seems. She
certainly never has it on loud when we visit.


Does her hearing aid have a "T" switch to use with hearing aid induction
loops? (most do) If this is the case then any TV with a headphone socket and
a plugged in personal induction loop should work. There is lots of
information at
http://www.rnid.org.uk/information_r...ps_a_guide.htm

Personal loops are available from http://www.rnid.org.uk/shop

Paul

 




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