Im beginning to hate DTV

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
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Wes Newell wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:07:57 -0600, me wrote:

Well I'm in central Missouri, Rolla to be exact

And not everyone can install an outside antenna

Why not? I can't think of a single instance where you couldn't, except
maybe in prison.

wow.

I would say I can't believe you just said that, but it really explains
quite a bit.

Okay, I'm confused. What was wrong with what he said?
Oh, and what does it explain to you?

Chip

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
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wrote:

Why not? I can't think of a single instance where you couldn't,
except maybe in prison.

wow.

I would say I can't believe you just said that, but it really
explains quite a bit.

Okay, I'm confused. What was wrong with what he said?

just plain wow.

Okay, your usual elucidation.

Chip

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Per Elmo P. Shagnasty:
I would say I can't believe you just said that, but it really explains
quite a bit.

Could there be a semantics issue?

If "everyone can install..." is taken literally, it's obviously a
fallacy bc some people just are not physically able to climb up
on a roof.

OTOH, if it means "everyone can install or have somebody
install..." it pretty much works for me.
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PeteCresswell

On 23 Feb 2010 02:49:21 GMT, wrote:

On Feb 21, 8:11=A0pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
wrote:
...
Is there an antenna rotator plug-in for Windows Media Center, that can
trigger the antenna for the program it's about to record?

Not for my rotator, which is older than ZIP codes.


I asked this question over on The Green Button several years ago and
was laughed at.

I have an IR controlled rotor and all I wanted was for MCE to output
an IR code to turn the rotor, much like what it does for a set top
box.

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:03:05 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
wrote:

In article ,
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

Per Elmo P. Shagnasty:
I would say I can't believe you just said that, but it really explains
quite a bit.

Could there be a semantics issue?

If "everyone can install..." is taken literally, it's obviously a
fallacy bc some people just are not physically able to climb up
on a roof.

OTOH, if it means "everyone can install or have somebody
install..." it pretty much works for me.

Not everyone can have an outside antenna installed.

It seems to me that what you mean is that not everyone can have an
outside antenna installed outside. Many of us have an outside antenna
installed "inside", which greatly improves reception over the
traditional "indoor" antenna.

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:41:17 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
wrote:

In article ,
Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

Not everyone can have an outside antenna installed.

It seems to me that what you mean is that not everyone can have an
outside antenna installed outside. Many of us have an outside antenna
installed "inside", which greatly improves reception over the
traditional "indoor" antenna.

...but which does not satisfy those who would tell you that "DTV is
great! If you don't see how great it is, plainly you don't have an
appropriate antenna installed outside!"

I guess that really everything depends on location. I have an outside
antenna, installed inside (the attic) and reception by the TV it's
connected to is great. I also have an outside antenna (outside)
connected to another TV and the reception is only good. But the
outside antenna outside is partially blocked by the 2-story house next
door, whereas the outside antenna inside is blocked only by my roof.
so as usual, YMMV.

"Wes Newell" wrote
Why not? I can't think of a single instance where you couldn't, except
maybe in prison.

I wonder if the steel bars on the window would pick up anything. :-/

HOA houses and condos don't allow outside TV antennas, but they allow
Satellite dishes with ugly outside wiring tacked all over on the outside of
the house where it can be easily be seen from the street.They don't allow
anything in the front windows that would look like a antenna And they worry
about the cosmetics of the neighborhood. I lived in a apartment complex a
long time ago and they didn't allow any outside antennas and satellite
dishes and that you would have cable TV only. It was learned later that the
manager and the cable company had a back door deal that if the manager kept
TV antennas and satellite dishes out, the manager gets free cable. What a
deal for the manager and not for the tenants.
"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:07:57 -0600, me wrote:

Well I'm in central Missouri, Rolla to be exact

And not everyone can install an outside antenna

Why not? I can't think of a single instance where you couldn't, except
maybe in prison. An outside antenna can be installed inside also. Attic,
top of closet, ceiling, outside a window, patio fence, etc. Personally,
if I lived in an apartment, I'd first try to negotiate installing one
where everyone could use it. But there's other places to install a
personal outside antenna in an apartment.

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"Techcom" wrote:
HOA houses and condos don't allow outside TV antennas, but they allow
Satellite dishes with ugly outside wiring tacked all over on the outside
of the house where it can be easily be seen from the street.They don't
allow anything in the front windows that would look like a antenna And
they worry about the cosmetics of the neighborhood. I lived in a
apartment complex a long time ago and they didn't allow any outside
antennas and satellite dishes and that you would have cable TV only. It
was learned later that the manager and the cable company had a back door
deal that if the manager kept TV antennas and satellite dishes out, the
manager gets free cable. What a deal for the manager and not for the
tenants.

HOAs and condo associations can't simply disallow antennas.
There are federal regulations which govern their placement.
With some restrictions, if it is in an area that only you
have access to it is okay.

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On Feb 23, 6:12*pm, "Techcom" wrote:
HOA houses and condos don't allow outside TV antennas, but they allow
Satellite dishes with ugly outside wiring tacked all over on the outside of
the house where it can be easily be seen from the street.They don't allow
anything in the front windows that would look like a antenna And they worry
about the cosmetics of the neighborhood. I lived in a apartment complex a
long time ago and they didn't allow any outside antennas and satellite
dishes and that you would have cable TV only. It was learned later that the
manager and the cable company had a back door deal that if the manager kept
TV antennas and satellite dishes out, the manager gets free cable. What a
deal for the manager and not for the tenants."Wes Newell" wrote in message

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On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:07:57 -0600, me wrote:

Well I'm in central Missouri, Rolla to be exact

And not everyone can install an outside antenna

Why not? I can't think of a single instance where you couldn't, except
maybe in prison. An outside antenna can be installed inside also. Attic,
top of closet, ceiling, outside a window, patio fence, etc. Personally,
if I lived in an apartment, I'd first try to negotiate installing one
where everyone could use it. But there's other places to install a
personal outside antenna in an apartment.

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You CAN have a small (1 meter diameter) antenna like the Winegard
Squareshooter (UHF only) even on a rental property. It is treated like
the satellite dish and even resembles it. We have one on our house for
the UHF and it works very well.

G²