Possibly buying a new telly - Mrs say to avoid Philips like theplague - should I?

My Mrs has had all sorts of problems with Philips bits falling apart,
mainly irons and hairdryers. I can't seem to persuade her that the
tellys are probably made in a different part of China/Vietnam/Moldova
from the irons and they probably undergo a tighter QC regime. I
personally think Philps TVs look ok and they score well in reviews
(usually).

Being a tad more general, what are the group's opinions on the various
flat panel HD displays on offer? Do they not all use the same display
panels like all CRT TVs used the same tubes? Someone told me that
most LCD panels were made by Samsung and most plasmas by Panasonic.

I get the feeling that the piano black monstrosities in the corners of
living rooms or plastered to the wall of the loft apartment are all
much of a muchness; or am I just displaying a lot of ignorance here?

I would also be interested to know if any of our installer colleagues
have ever calibrated any of these beasts, and does it make much
difference from the default settings if you do?

MR

"MartinR" wrote in message
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My Mrs has had all sorts of problems with Philips bits falling apart,
mainly irons and hairdryers. I can't seem to persuade her that the
tellys are probably made in a different part of China/Vietnam/Moldova
from the irons and they probably undergo a tighter QC regime. I
personally think Philps TVs look ok and they score well in reviews
(usually).

Well all the latest Pannys seem to have nasty Guide+ EPGs rather than the
standard Freeview ones, so maybe you should look at the Sonys...

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Max Demian

On 19/02/2010 14:01, Max Demian wrote:
wrote in message
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My Mrs has had all sorts of problems with Philips bits falling apart,
mainly irons and hairdryers. I can't seem to persuade her that the
tellys are probably made in a different part of China/Vietnam/Moldova
from the irons and they probably undergo a tighter QC regime. I
personally think Philps TVs look ok and they score well in reviews
(usually).

Well all the latest Pannys seem to have nasty Guide+ EPGs rather than the
standard Freeview ones, so maybe you should look at the Sonys...


My Panny, TX-L32G10B has a perfectly good EPG

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Corporal Jones
"I don't like it up me"

"MartinR" wrote in message
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My Mrs has had all sorts of problems with Philips bits falling apart,
mainly irons and hairdryers. I can't seem to persuade her that the
tellys are probably made in a different part of China/Vietnam/Moldova
from the irons and they probably undergo a tighter QC regime. I
personally think Philps TVs look ok and they score well in reviews
(usually).

Being a tad more general, what are the group's opinions on the various
flat panel HD displays on offer? Do they not all use the same display
panels like all CRT TVs used the same tubes? Someone told me that
most LCD panels were made by Samsung and most plasmas by Panasonic.

I get the feeling that the piano black monstrosities in the corners of
living rooms or plastered to the wall of the loft apartment are all
much of a muchness; or am I just displaying a lot of ignorance here?

I would also be interested to know if any of our installer colleagues
have ever calibrated any of these beasts, and does it make much
difference from the default settings if you do?

The only way to choose it to go and look at them in one of the multiples.
Having chosen then shop around on line to see who has the best deal.

Peter Crosland

In most cases the default settings are awful. Generally the contrast,
brightness, sharpness and colour are way too high to make them stand
out in the shops, so careful setting up is a must. Most of the picture
and sound "enhancing" features spoil the performance and are best
switched off, if you can be bothered to set up the manual settings
carefully.

Don't forget to listen to the sound if you are not going to use a
seperate sound system as there is no room for decent speakers in a
flat TV and the sound varies from just acceptable to downright
painfully abysmal. (Samsung).

When installing satellite etc, I have seen stunning pics on recent
Philips sets and good sound also but in general there are very few of
them around now compared with a few years ago. The software has been a
problem at times when used with Sky HD boxes.

Most people I speak to seem to have gone either Panasonic or Sony, though
apparently you need a 6 year old to understand Sony's remote logic, I'm
told.

Brian

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"widgitt" wrote in message
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In most cases the default settings are awful. Generally the contrast,
brightness, sharpness and colour are way too high to make them stand
out in the shops, so careful setting up is a must. Most of the picture
and sound "enhancing" features spoil the performance and are best
switched off, if you can be bothered to set up the manual settings
carefully.

Don't forget to listen to the sound if you are not going to use a
seperate sound system as there is no room for decent speakers in a
flat TV and the sound varies from just acceptable to downright
painfully abysmal. (Samsung).

When installing satellite etc, I have seen stunning pics on recent
Philips sets and good sound also but in general there are very few of
them around now compared with a few years ago. The software has been a
problem at times when used with Sky HD boxes.

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
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MartinR wrote:

My Mrs has had all sorts of problems with Philips bits falling apart,
mainly irons and hairdryers. I can't seem to persuade her that the
tellys are probably made in a different part of China/Vietnam/Moldova
from the irons and they probably undergo a tighter QC regime. I
personally think Philps TVs look ok and they score well in reviews
(usually).

I had a rule with Phillips for years. if it has moving parts don't
touch it :O) basically all the vcrs and tape recorders we had by them
wrecked the tapes.

Maybe that's because you put the tapes in upside down. ;-

I had a Philips VCR that lasted from 1991-2003.

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Max Demian

On 19/02/2010 13:28, MartinR wrote:
My Mrs has had all sorts of problems with Philips bits falling apart,
mainly irons and hairdryers. I can't seem to persuade her that the
tellys are probably made in a different part of China/Vietnam/Moldova
from the irons and they probably undergo a tighter QC regime. I
personally think Philps TVs look ok and they score well in reviews
(usually).

Save yourself the trouble and get a Panasonic Plasma. There's nothing to
touch them at the moment. If you really must have LCD, then get a Sony.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember MartinR
saying something like:

Do they not all use the same display
panels like all CRT TVs used the same tubes? Someone told me that
most LCD panels were made by Samsung and most plasmas by Panasonic.

I can only speak of my own purchase, a Samsung. Turns out Samsung use
panels from several makers, some reputed to be better than others. In
their most recent production they have removed all means of reliably
identifying the panel fitted to any particular set. shrug Perhaps I
won the panel lottery, but I've no complaints about the picture quality
of mine.

I would also be interested to know if any of our installer colleagues
have ever calibrated any of these beasts, and does it make much
difference from the default settings if you do?

It makes a huge difference. Out of the box the picture was vivid and
horrible. Searching around soon found a set of parameters that yeilded a
much better picture and I took it from there. Even the factory defaults
on a reset were better than the intial settings.
Now, it's very watchable, with rich blacks and good shadow detail, very
controlled highlights and natural colouring. Some might find my settings
a bit subdued but that's the way I've always preferred my TVs. Even if
so, it's easy to tweak a setting or two.

"Max Demian" wrote in message ...
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message ...
MartinR wrote:

My Mrs has had all sorts of problems with Philips bits falling apart,
mainly irons and hairdryers. I can't seem to persuade her that the
tellys are probably made in a different part of China/Vietnam/Moldova
from the irons and they probably undergo a tighter QC regime. I
personally think Philps TVs look ok and they score well in reviews
(usually).

I had a rule with Phillips for years. if it has moving parts don't
touch it :O) basically all the vcrs and tape recorders we had by them
wrecked the tapes.

Maybe that's because you put the tapes in upside down. ;-

One Philips machine I know of made a valiant effort to load any cassette offered
to it upside down, and the workshop was piled high with them all with plastic rack-sliders
with missing teeth.
Sorry I can't remember the model, but it also had a torturous tape-wrap
more like a Betamax than a VHS

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Graham.

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