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Old February 13th 10, 03:03 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Feb 13, 12:25*am, widgitt wrote:
Just looking at this pic:http://www.buckbyaerials.co.uk/rogue6.htm

The clues to me would be:
1) The cable tie attaching the amp has not been trimmed.
2) The taping would be much neater if it were equally spaced.
3) The lashing wire looks pretty untidy wound back along its length.


Yes, the tape on the mast is too far apart. I used to do it like that
for years then I realised that it needed to be closer. I agree with
Martin that it's a good idea to put some tape right around the amp, as
well as use the cable tie. All too often the ties break. I also agree
with the position of the chimney bracket. People often put them on the
top three courses but these little chimneys aren't strong enough for
that. The amp is in a good place, low enough to avoid any fumes from
the gas flue. I don't like the way the cable comes off the bottom of
the mast and runs down the roof. It's likely to move slightly in the
wind and rub on a tile edge. It's far better to take the cable to a J
bolt, secure it there, then clip to the masonry where appropriate,
then fix to the lead flashing. Fix in a position where the cable is in
one of the low points of the tile. These low points run straight down
the roof and if the cable is in one and is fixed at top and bottom it
won't move around.

We're very helpful in this group Martin.

Bill
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Old February 13th 10, 11:36 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article
s.com, widgitt scribeth thus


I would have thought that it would have been preferable to have thanked
Bill for pointing out the error, then return to the customer and
correcting the missing tape and clips. That would have been better than
continuing to dig the hole you are in even deeper. Think of the number
of plus points that could have earned you.


I quite agree.

Whilst we are nit picking, (and I was trying not to but you seemed to
be asking for it), one of my first ways of spotting a suspect job is
to look for an untaped F plug.



Theres a large CCTV system around here that uses microwave and UHF radio
links for control. On the main site there are a lot of aerial assemblies
that use BNC plugs. Not one of them has anything around it!!..

Suppose it keeps the maintenance guys in a job;!...


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Old February 13th 10, 02:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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-GB-Carpy wrote:

I can't seem to find the picture with the unprotected F connector? Has
it been removed now?


The page with the image has been removed, but the image itself still
lurks there.

http://www.buckbyaerials.co.uk/images/40.jpg

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Old February 13th 10, 02:56 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:03:50 -0800, explained:

All too often the ties break.


Is this primarily due to degradation from sun light and UV irradiation?
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Old February 13th 10, 03:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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-GB-Carpy wrote:
I can't seem to find the picture with the unprotected F connector? Has
it been removed now?


Still there.
http://www.buckbyaerials.co.uk/rogue9.htm

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Old February 13th 10, 03:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Feb 13, 1:56*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:03:50 -0800, explained:

All too often the ties break.


Is this primarily due to degradation from sun light and UV irradiation?


Not much in the way of plastics that can survive the British weather,
but yes sunlight on plastic makes it very brittle over time and prone
to splitting and cracking. Any movement (due to wind and alighting
crows) will definitely cause breakage.
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Old February 13th 10, 03:12 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Adrian wrote:

Still there.
http://www.buckbyaerials.co.uk/rogue9.htm


That's not the original page



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Old February 13th 10, 03:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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-GB-Carpy wrote:

I can't seem to find the picture with the unprotected F connector? Has
it been removed now?


The page with the image has been removed, but the image itself still lurks
there.

http://www.buckbyaerials.co.uk/images/40.jpg


Oh yes - thanks for that. Certainly looks like 3 bolts to me!

Thunderbolts are perfect if you really have to drill into brickwork as they
don't rely on expamsion and won't split the bricks. I wasn't sure about them
at first, but wouldn't use anything else now. They really are perfect for
fixing Sky dishes to brickwork!

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Old February 13th 10, 03:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:01:23 -0800, Mike wrote:

On Feb 13, 1:56Â*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:03:50 -0800, explained:

All too often the ties break.


Is this primarily due to degradation from sun light and UV irradiation?


Not much in the way of plastics that can survive the British weather,
but yes sunlight on plastic makes it very brittle over time and prone to
splitting and cracking. Any movement (due to wind and alighting crows)
will definitely cause breakage.


So would it not be better not to use plastic cable ties and to use
something more suitable, perhaps some form of cable tie in metal form
or other material?

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Old February 13th 10, 03:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I suppose black ties would be better than white ones.

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