Freeview HD boxes in the shops from next week

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In Argos next week

http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051649

Price too high for Joe Public.

The HD Satellite boxes for Freesat sold in the hundreds of thousands
at £150+ for a system that has only one regular part time HD channel.



The cost of early receivers certainly didn't stop Freeview taking off,
back in 2002/3 I knew people who could sell almost as many of these as
they could get.
http://www.intempo.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/stb.htm/

The wording on the bottom right is quite amusing.

How would the customer know if the seller's aerial needs upgrading?
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Where are the hard disks?

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In Argos next week

http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051649

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In Argos next week

http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051649

Price too high for Joe Public.

The HD Satellite boxes for Freesat sold in the hundreds of thousands at
£150+ for a system that has only one regular part time HD channel.



The cost of early receivers certainly didn't stop Freeview taking off,
back in 2002/3 I knew people who could sell almost as many of these as
they could get.
http://www.intempo.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/stb.htm/

But freeview offered something worth the cost, 50 extra channels.

All HD gives is 5 current channels in HD. How many people will think that 5
channels of HD is worth having at all, let along paying 150 quid for?

tim

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But freeview offered something worth the cost, 50 extra channels.

All HD gives is 5 current channels in HD. How many people will think
that 5 channels of HD is worth having at all, let along paying 150
quid for?

No, you're approaching this all wrong. If you're an ad man you have to
salami slice it down into smaller bits. So, let's take an expected box life
of 5 or 6 years, oh, call it 2000 days, by 5 channels - that's 10000 channel
days.

So, it's "HD for just 1.5p a day!".

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In Argos next week

http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051649

Price too high for Joe Public.

The HD Satellite boxes for Freesat sold in the hundreds of thousands at
£150+ for a system that has only one regular part time HD channel.



The cost of early receivers certainly didn't stop Freeview taking off,
back in 2002/3 I knew people who could sell almost as many of these as
they could get.
http://www.intempo.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/stb.htm/

But freeview offered something worth the cost, 50 extra channels.

All HD gives is 5 current channels in HD. How many people will think that
5 channels of HD is worth having at all, let along paying 150 quid for?



However it doesn't detract from the fact that Freeview boxes which a mere
seven or eight years ago were selling for as much as £130, can now be
purchased for under £20.00.
I would suspect that there are also quite a number of hard core sports fans
who will initially go for it, especially in World Cup year, which must
inevitably help drive down prices, plus there will be the benefits of
economies of scale, as other countries are also adopting the DVB T2 system,
give it another three or four years (allowing for the fact that the UK/World
economy doesn't disappear into the abyss) and I guess that even cheap
supermarket tellys will have HD included as standard.

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But freeview offered something worth the cost, 50 extra channels.

All HD gives is 5 current channels in HD. How many people will think that
5 channels of HD is worth having at all, let along paying 150 quid for?


Are you sure there will be 5 ???

Some how I doubt it. Only think it will be the BBC HD one.
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David

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But freeview offered something worth the cost, 50 extra channels.

All HD gives is 5 current channels in HD. *How many people will think that
5 channels of HD is worth having at all, let along paying 150 quid for?

Are you sure there will be 5 ???

Some how I doubt it. * *Only think it will be the BBC HD one.
Regards
David

from http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/Services/Freeview-HD

"BBC, ITV and Channel 4 HD channels will be available along with S4C
HD in Wales bringing your favourite soaps and dramas, documentaries
and even the 2010 World Cup in full HD glory. Five HD aims to launch
on Freeview HD in late 2010."

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In Argos next week

http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051649

Price too high for Joe Public.

The HD Satellite boxes for Freesat sold in the hundreds of thousands at
£150+ for a system that has only one regular part time HD channel.



The cost of early receivers certainly didn't stop Freeview taking off,
back in 2002/3 I knew people who could sell almost as many of these as
they could get.
http://www.intempo.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/stb.htm/

But freeview offered something worth the cost, 50 extra channels.

All HD gives is 5 current channels in HD. How many people will think
that 5 channels of HD is worth having at all, let along paying 150 quid
for?



However it doesn't detract from the fact that Freeview boxes which a mere
seven or eight years ago were selling for as much as £130, can now be
purchased for under £20.00.
I would suspect that there are also quite a number of hard core sports
fans who will initially go for it, especially in World Cup year, which
must inevitably help drive down prices, plus there will be the benefits
of economies of scale, as other countries are also adopting the DVB T2
system, give it another three or four years (allowing for the fact that
the UK/World economy doesn't disappear into the abyss) and I guess that
even cheap supermarket tellys will have HD included as standard.








If you compare this to the cost of Freesat HD without a dish the cost is
only a bit higher and there is only 1 HD channel on Freesat at the moment.
if you need to go out and purchase a Freesat HD box and have a dish fitted
the cost and 'mucking about' is quite off putting.

Go to Argus buy a Freeview box and get HD in a few mins just by plugging it
in. Magic.

cost of Freesat HD box £67-149
cost of install. £80
Wait for install around 2 days

Best case £147 worst case £230
cost of Freeview HD 149-179 plug in and go.

the costs are not the big difference you suggest.
i have just looked at the web pages and Freeview say 5 HD channels in 2010
Freesat is only saying bbc and itv no indication as to any expansion.

Gary

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I would suspect that there are also quite a number of hard core sports fans
who will initially go for it, especially in World Cup year

When is the world cup? Presumably prices will drop immediately
after it.

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How can they cram in 5 HD channels that will only properly accommodate 4 SD
channels?

DVB-T2 gives a higher bit rate than DVB-T, and uses MPEG-4 instead of
MPEG-2 giving better compression.

Of course, that doesn't mean it won't be rubbish.

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