Now we have or about to have Freeview HD

So Joe Public will or about to find out his HD Ready TV will not get the HD
channels on his TV with the tick on.
I have today been quoted £150/180 for a Freeview HD box.

Do you experts think a TV with Freeview built in could have parts added or
changed to make it get HD Freeview channels?
Regards
David

Hi there, most but not all of the TVs with built in Freeviewthat have
been sold in the last little while sadly cannot decode the HD
channels.

However there are a few that have full hd with built in freeview that
are also capable of decoding HD channels without the need of another
freeview hd decoder or a freesat hd box

I have an LG M2262 which makes this possible.

What you need to look for in the specs is MPEG 4 capability (normal
freeview is MPEG 2).

I am not an expert but i believe TVs that double up as PC monitors are
the more likely to have this capability (LG and SONY are two - there
may be more)

Hoping this helps as the freeview hd decoders are likely to stay at an
inflated price until 2012 when the full digital tv switchover will be
completed.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:05:18 +0000, David wrote:

Do you experts think a TV with Freeview built in could have parts added
or changed to make it get HD Freeview channels?

No, because not only does it need a DVB-t2 tuner, it also needs
the necessary capabilities in software to decode MPEG-4 (as
well as MPEG-2 from the DVB-t transmission.)

Of course, the "parts added" which will make it display HD Freeview
channels are in fact in the form of a DVB-t2 MPEG-4 digital
converter box connected via the HDMI input.

On Jan 29, 9:19*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:05:18 +0000, David wrote:
Do you experts think a TV with Freeview built in could have parts added
or changed to make it get HD Freeview channels?

No, because not only does it need a DVB-t2 tuner, it also needs
the necessary capabilities in software to decode MPEG-4 (as
well as MPEG-2 from the DVB-t transmission.)

Of course, the "parts added" which will make it display HD Freeview
channels are in fact in the form of a DVB-t2 MPEG-4 digital
converter box connected via the HDMI input. *

Wouldn't it be nice if TV's could connect to something similar to a
PCI card so you could choose which tuner you wanted? But that would be
FAR too sensible and rob manufacturers of valuable replacement TV
income.

camden23 wrote:
Hi there, most but not all of the TVs with built in Freeviewthat have
been sold in the last little while sadly cannot decode the HD
channels.

However there are a few that have full hd with built in freeview that
are also capable of decoding HD channels without the need of another
freeview hd decoder or a freesat hd box

I have an LG M2262 which makes this possible.

What you need to look for in the specs is MPEG 4 capability (normal
freeview is MPEG 2).

I am not an expert but i believe TVs that double up as PC monitors are
the more likely to have this capability (LG and SONY are two - there
may be more)

Hoping this helps as the freeview hd decoders are likely to stay at an
inflated price until 2012 when the full digital tv switchover will be
completed.

If you think you will be able to get Freeview HD without a separate box
then you will disappointed. If you were told that when you bought it
then you were lied too.

--
Adrian

On 29/01/2010 21:21, Mike wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:19 pm, J G wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:05:18 +0000, David wrote:
Do you experts think a TV with Freeview built in could have parts added
or changed to make it get HD Freeview channels?

No, because not only does it need a DVB-t2 tuner, it also needs
the necessary capabilities in software to decode MPEG-4 (as
well as MPEG-2 from the DVB-t transmission.)

Of course, the "parts added" which will make it display HD Freeview
channels are in fact in the form of a DVB-t2 MPEG-4 digital
converter box connected via the HDMI input.

Wouldn't it be nice if TV's could connect to something similar to a
PCI card so you could choose which tuner you wanted? But that would be
FAR too sensible and rob manufacturers of valuable replacement TV
income.
Yes it's called MythTV and a barebones thing like this

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/180688

Made it up myself and do intend to do some testing with DVB-T2 from
Winter Hill soon. Will post results when I have some.

Rob.

Mike wrote:

Wouldn't it be nice if TV's could connect to something similar to a
PCI card so you could choose which tuner you wanted? But that would be
FAR too sensible and rob manufacturers of valuable replacement TV
income.


only Loewe provides built in cards for dvbt dvbs etc


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"David" wrote in message
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So Joe Public will or about to find out his HD Ready TV will not get the
HD channels on his TV with the tick on.
I have today been quoted £150/180 for a Freeview HD box.

Do you experts think a TV with Freeview built in could have parts added or
changed to make it get HD Freeview channels?
Regards
David

Argos are advertising "Freeview HD" TVs in their latest catalogue, hardly
any
difference in price to current models.
HD is a scam anyway. I have tried it out on a 42" TV with SKY HD on a
number
of programmes. The only difference is enhanced contrast, sharper focusing
and
concentrating on things longer so you notice the saturated colours! I can't
see
any difference apart from colour and contrast compared with normal SKY and
Freeview. I can alter the settings on normal TV and use the sharpness
control to
make any picture look like HD. It is one big con and not worth the money.
Programmes for HD are filmed with better quality lenses - that's all.
For a 42" TV you would need to sit within 5ft to notice any difference,
which
is inconvenient.

David wrote:

So Joe Public will or about to find out his HD Ready TV will not get the
HD channels on his TV with the tick on.
I have today been quoted £150/180 for a Freeview HD box.


In France around 100 euros, but in the "soldes" here and there 50.

Philips 150.


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camden23 wrote:
Hi there, most but not all of the TVs with built in Freeviewthat have
been sold in the last little while sadly cannot decode the HD
channels.

However there are a few that have full hd with built in freeview that
are also capable of decoding HD channels without the need of another
freeview hd decoder or a freesat hd box

I have an LG M2262 which makes this possible.

What you need to look for in the specs is MPEG 4 capability (normal
freeview is MPEG 2).

I am not an expert but i believe TVs that double up as PC monitors are
the more likely to have this capability (LG and SONY are two - there
may be more)

Hoping this helps as the freeview hd decoders are likely to stay at an
inflated price until 2012 when the full digital tv switchover will be
completed.

If you think you will be able to get Freeview HD without a separate box
then you will disappointed. If you were told that when you bought it then
you were lied too.

--
Adrian

I would love to see you challenge Argos - they are advertising Freeview HD
TVs. When you complain to the ASA post the complaint reference number and
let us
all know how you get on.