Did I hear right?

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:49:22 +0000, Paul Heslop wrote:
nope... except he fits what new labour and cronies think of as the right
man for the job.

Appointed by an ITV chairman who is a former Tory MP & front bench
spokesman who was (is?) a close ally of William Hague (shadow foreign
secretary & considered Cameron's deputy).

But don't let the facts get in the way of it always being Labour's fault.

Ian said the following on 29/01/2010 00:48:
In message , Paul Heslop
writes
Brian Gaff wrote:

Is the Post office boss now going to run ITV.

I'm sure there would be a joke there . A very bad one.

We tried to broadcast but you were out.

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:


Now there's one delivery at approx lunchtime - but can vary by up to two
hours either side. Sub post office closed - against their will - and the
next nearest one a main one which is ridiculously busy - you have to
queue for at least 20 minutes.

And this in Central London. I can only guess what it must be like in
rural areas.

Not sure if you'd class here as 'rural'. However we still get our mail
dropping onto the doormat at about 9:30am. Hence still a morning delivery
so far as I'm concerned. The posties are very friendly, too. They were the
main reason I put some effort into keeping our path clear of ice recently!

And an order I placed yesterday with CPC came with our mail this morning.

Above said, I am far from happy with the changes at RM in recent years. You
may recall the "Dear Granny Smith" set of readings from the book/blog by
'Roy Mayall' that R4 broadcast in December. That made clear the root of the
problems is a management who had no clue that mail is a *service* or that
staff are human. The householders who get mail aren't even the "customers".
RM now seem to regard the people who produce shedloads of junk mail as
their main "customers", not the rest of us who have to then put all the
junk into the blue bin.

....and as a parallel, I've been puzzled by seeing a recent TV advert for
the "Peoples Post Office". (i.e. the counter service, not RM). Made me
wonder which "People" thay had in mind. Can't be the same organisation who
shut down the Post Office in our town last year. They ignored the protests
of the Staff and thousands of residents. So we clearly weren't the "People"
they have in mind. Can't be the same organisation!

....and the took away our closest postbox last year, so the 'people' here
now have to walk into the center of town. Presumably we aren't "customers",
just people with letters to post... :-)

My impression is that the Grand Plan has been to close all post offices and
postboxs. Then say, "Look, individuals don't post letters any more!" and
just use RM to distribute junk mail in even more bulk. Perhaps we can then
fit our letterboxes to our blue bins and cut out the middleman. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Paul Heslop
wrote:
Richard Brooks wrote:

Ian said the following on 29/01/2010 00:48:
In message , Paul Heslop
writes
Brian Gaff wrote:

Is the Post office boss now going to run ITV.

I'm sure there would be a joke there . A very bad one.

We tried to broadcast but you were out.

heh heh

The program cannot be transmitted as it is too big for the time slot.

....and we won't tell you what it was until you go to a distant office at an
inconvenient time and pay us a few extra quid first! :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:

[snip]

...and as a parallel, I've been puzzled by seeing a recent TV advert for
the "Peoples Post Office". (i.e. the counter service, not RM). Made me
wonder which "People" thay had in mind. Can't be the same organisation
who shut down the Post Office in our town last year. They ignored the
protests of the Staff and thousands of residents. So we clearly weren't
the "People" they have in mind. Can't be the same organisation!

Indeed. My local one now closed was busy and profitable, according to the
owner. So I can only assume the PO had to pay more in some way for a sub
post office than main. I can I suppose see the thinking in a little used
rural one which although a near necessity loses money - but this can't
have been the case here.

BTW I also enjoyed 'Dear Granny Smith'

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Jim Lesurf wrote:

...and the took away our closest postbox last year, so the 'people'
here now have to walk into the center of town. Presumably we aren't
"customers", just people with letters to post... :-)

But how many letters do you actually send a year, and how many of those are
actually necessary, in that the matters concerned could not have been dealt
with by some other, probably more efficient method, such as email? It's
pretty archaic these days to be transporting physical bits of paper around
the world, isn't it?

My impression is that the Grand Plan has been to close all post
offices and postboxs. Then say, "Look, individuals don't post letters
any more!" and just use RM to distribute junk mail in even more bulk.
Perhaps we can then fit our letterboxes to our blue bins and cut out
the middleman. :-)

I think we should in fact abolish the Post Office altogether. That would
get rid of the junk menace they've become, and I don't think we'd lose that
much if we did. The major argument against, which is that Post Ofices act
as some sort of social centre for the elderly, I don't regard as very
convincing for a commercial enterprise.

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
wrote:

[snip]

...and as a parallel, I've been puzzled by seeing a recent TV advert
for the "Peoples Post Office". (i.e. the counter service, not RM).
Made me wonder which "People" thay had in mind. Can't be the same
organisation who shut down the Post Office in our town last year. They
ignored the protests of the Staff and thousands of residents. So we
clearly weren't the "People" they have in mind. Can't be the same
organisation!

Indeed. My local one now closed was busy and profitable, according to
the owner. So I can only assume the PO had to pay more in some way for a
sub post office than main. I can I suppose see the thinking in a little
used rural one which although a near necessity loses money - but this
can't have been the case here.

Ours was a main office. In fact I think it was a 'Crown' one but may be
wrong on that. They had a local inquiry, but the PO people essentially just
turned up and went away again with no sign of caring what people wanted.
Nor the fact that there was always a long queue, and the office was busy.
Their minds were made up and were not willing to be confused by mere facts.

If you note the town is a mix of 'retired', 'student' and 'tourist' you can
see why the office was well used.

Needless to say, they still haven't managed to sell the building. So it
sits empty. The PO is now a set of counters in Smugs.

Slainte,

Jim

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:31:05 -0000, "Norman Wells"
wrote:

Jim Lesurf wrote:

...and the took away our closest postbox last year, so the 'people'
here now have to walk into the center of town. Presumably we aren't
"customers", just people with letters to post... :-)

But how many letters do you actually send a year, and how many of those are
actually necessary, in that the matters concerned could not have been dealt
with by some other, probably more efficient method, such as email? It's
pretty archaic these days to be transporting physical bits of paper around
the world, isn't it?

My impression is that the Grand Plan has been to close all post
offices and postboxs. Then say, "Look, individuals don't post letters
any more!" and just use RM to distribute junk mail in even more bulk.
Perhaps we can then fit our letterboxes to our blue bins and cut out
the middleman. :-)

I think we should in fact abolish the Post Office altogether. That would
get rid of the junk menace they've become, and I don't think we'd lose that
much if we did. The major argument against, which is that Post Ofices act
as some sort of social centre for the elderly, I don't regard as very
convincing for a commercial enterprise.

I think you are confusing Post Offices with the Royal Mail. They do
different jobs. The Royal Mail delivers junk mail as a means of making
money and therefore keeping down the cost of postage.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Peter Duncanson wrote:

I think you are confusing Post Offices with the Royal Mail. They do
different jobs. The Royal Mail delivers junk mail as a means of making
money and therefore keeping down the cost of postage.

Er, for more junk mail presumably. So, the more we get, the more we're
going to get.

Seems like a very good argument to close the whole thing down.

In article ,
Norman Wells wrote:
...and the took away our closest postbox last year, so the 'people'
here now have to walk into the center of town. Presumably we aren't
"customers", just people with letters to post... :-)

But how many letters do you actually send a year, and how many of those
are actually necessary, in that the matters concerned could not have
been dealt with by some other, probably more efficient method, such as
email? It's pretty archaic these days to be transporting physical bits
of paper around the world, isn't it?

I seem to be forever posting and receiving small packets of things like
electronics that can go by letter post. At least as many as I ever did
letters.

My impression is that the Grand Plan has been to close all post
offices and postboxs. Then say, "Look, individuals don't post letters
any more!" and just use RM to distribute junk mail in even more bulk.
Perhaps we can then fit our letterboxes to our blue bins and cut out
the middleman. :-)

I think we should in fact abolish the Post Office altogether. That
would get rid of the junk menace they've become, and I don't think we'd
lose that much if we did. The major argument against, which is that
Post Ofices act as some sort of social centre for the elderly, I don't
regard as very convincing for a commercial enterprise.

Abolish the PO and someone else will deliver the junk. Of that you can be
sure.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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