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Old December 24th 09, 10:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"IanT" wrote in message
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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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OK, it's not high definition, but I'm quite supprised no individual
company has advertised and picked up all the discarded high end
widescreen CRT televisions (say Loewe, B&O, Sony and (cough) Philips) -



Mainly because the quality of the picture is not as good as current LCD
and
plasma and the latest LED screens (not LCD with LED backlighting).

done a good refurbishment and integrated a decent freeview set top box.


To do that the entire tuner section would need to be removed and replaced,
then the circuit dealing with the remote control changed together with a
few
other bits and pieces. Too expensive and it would take far too long to do
with many different models for what would be a picture that didn't fit the
screen!

I'm sure given the LCD/plasma refuseniks out there, there would still be
an interest?


Not really, who wants a huge bulky CRT with a poor picture quality
compared
to a nice new LCD TV. No one I know of would want that. They all
want 40inch screens, not some small 20 or 28inch CRT which is the size of
a wheelie bin.

And probably a new life could be given to ex-studio CRT monitors?


Well if you think there is a market why don't you do it. I have a 28" CRT
you can have for free. The conversion and messing about will cost you
far more than the TV is worth - even if you found someone daft enough to
buy it. It's not a viable business. That's why my local tip has hundreds
of
big old CRT TVs.

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all very true they are huge old beasts but my toshiba 32" is now 10 years
old and has never missed a beat, it has a stunning picture and often gets
comments about its sound and picture quality


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Old December 24th 09, 12:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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You will probably find the EU won't like it due to the leaded solder in the
older part of the set, or was it straight banana folklore about this one?
Brian

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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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OK, it's not high definition, but I'm quite supprised no individual
company has advertised and picked up all the discarded high end widescreen
CRT televisions (say Loewe, B&O, Sony and (cough) Philips) - done a good
refurbishment and integrated a decent freeview set top box. I'm sure given
the LCD/plasma refuseniks out there, there would still be an interest?

And probably a new life could be given to ex-studio CRT monitors?

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Old December 24th 09, 12:26 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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I can recall many moons ago, getting an old n1501 vcr modified to use the
N1700 standard. It had a head change a pully change and a small circuit
board for the capstan speed control and hey presto..

Mind you the making of an N1700 to run for double the time was even easier
due to its dc motor system and you just cut one track and added a gate chip
and a switch.

Brian

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Tim wrote:
Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:23:59 +0000, Adrian C
wrote:

OK, it's not high definition, but I'm quite supprised no individual
company has advertised and picked up all the discarded high end
widescreen CRT televisions (say Loewe, B&O, Sony and (cough)
Philips) - done a good refurbishment and integrated a decent
freeview set top box. I'm sure given the LCD/plasma refuseniks out
there, there would still be an interest?

And probably a new life could be given to ex-studio CRT monitors?

Interesting idea.

Would there be an sufficient supply of spares to allow a guarantee to
be given with a refurbished CRT TV?


Do you really think the demand would be great enough? Personally I doubt
it. I wasn't convinced by the move to LCD/plasma but now I've got a flat
screen TV our old 32" CRT TV looks like a dinosaur and I resent the space
it takes up.

Tim

No I very much doubt it too...the number would never be attractive enough
to end users. No one wants to do it for charity.

Rob.



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Old December 24th 09, 01:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"IanT" wrote in message
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"brushhead" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:
Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:23:59 +0000, Adrian C
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No I very much doubt it too...the number would never be attractive enough
to end users. No one wants to do it for charity.
Rob.


No charity would even accept my 28inch CRT. I tried giving it away
for free to a good home with a digital box.
It's only staying in the garage for another week, then it's off to the
tip.


Offer it on your local freecycle group or gumtree free items

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Old December 24th 09, 02:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Steve Terry" wrote in message
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Offer it on your local freecycle group or gumtree free items

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Managed to sell my old Sony 32 inch for £100 on eBay a year ago.....

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Old December 27th 09, 12:40 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

When you decide to reclaim the space you may find that getting rid of
a huge CRT TV can be a bit of a challenge.


32" widescreen sets get chucked over fences around here. Some of them are
more modern than mine.

I won't say how I got rid of my 19" PC monitor other than I was not willing
to pay the council £17.99 for the privilege of collecting it.

(kim)


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Old December 30th 09, 02:48 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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20 years ago, almost my entire time was spent reconditioning TVs for
sale. Some of the sets are still in full-time use and certain models
which could now be aproaching 30 years old (mainly 22" Philips and B+O
with 20/30AX tubes) would give a better pic than anything then or now.
Sets then became cheaper and the common black plastic cabinet,
"monitor style" 21" and 24" sets from just about all makers appeared
and did a sterling job but with much reduced picture quality. They
broke down in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways. We repaired many
thousands but it became touch and go as to wether it was worth it as
prices dropped.

Then came the monster widescreen CRT sets. Those people who still have
them may argue but in general they were absolute pigs if they did go
wrong...and they certainly did. They weighed a ton and the picture was
seldom great. There were terrific problems with the tubes fitted to
huge numbers of Panasonics, Toshibas and others shorting out which
caused the sets to be written off and the corner convergence, overall
picture geometry (Sony) and focus of bright lettering etc (Philips)
was often abysmal. Certain models from certain makers performed very
well but you could not say that any particular maker always performed
well especially as these were the days of re-badging. (That side of
things has got much worse since there are now so many unknown,
invented brands.) I am quite sure that the main reason for the
"unknown" brands is to avoid call-backs when the set breaks down out
of guarantee.

It is next to impossible to give the widescreen CRT sets away now.
It is not worth my while even considering accepting one of these free
for resale, even if it is perfect, as the risks involved in moving it,
storing it, the cost of adding Freeview to it and the possible cost of
a guarantee repair should it break down would be totaly prohibitive. A
CRT set with built-in Freeview is even more of a risk due to the
numbers which have been rendered obsolete by changes in the Freeview
standards. Add to that the need to have two remote controls to work it
and the lack of HDMI sockets etc and there is no chance

I hate to see things thrown out and wasted and much prefer to make the
most of something which is good, but try telling that to the customer,
and look at the current prices on ebay !
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Old December 30th 09, 12:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Adrian C
writes

If it's B&O or Loewe, please don't sent it down the tip!!!


Why? They're standard Philips chassis with some flashy plastics...

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Old December 30th 09, 02:31 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Lots of Philips components, but not standard Philips chassis, I think.
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Old January 6th 10, 12:31 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"IanT" wrote in message
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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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OK, it's not high definition, but I'm quite supprised no individual
company has advertised and picked up all the discarded high end
widescreen CRT televisions (say Loewe, B&O, Sony and (cough) Philips) -



Mainly because the quality of the picture is not as good as current LCD
and
plasma and the latest LED screens (not LCD with LED backlighting).


My 36" CRT Toshiba is far better (both picture and sound) than my parent's
LCD Panasonic Viera, so much so that when the scan converter recently went,
I got it fixed rather than buy an LCD. Incidentally Toshiba sent me the new
module for free. Several people with LCDs have commented on how good the
picture is, even the guy who reluctantly sold me it said it was better than
his new LCD (his wife wanted the extra space).

Z


 




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