Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards

larkim wrote:
On Dec 10, 6:14 pm, "-GB-Carpy" wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

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On Dec 10, 12:04 am, fred wrote:





In article , -GB-Carpy
writesHere's an old photo on my website, taken by me
a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG
Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?
Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!
Tell 'em you'll accept one of their little toys in exchange for their
breach of your copyright.
No, really.
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fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs
Absolutely bloody right! Copyright theft is bad enough with consumers
nicking professional works, without companies nicking private
individuals photos.

You have to ask why it was beyond the wit of man / Promax to take a
photo of someone near to an aerial without have to take a fairly
ordinary photo of a roof (no offence!), touch out the old aerial and
replace and add a character that wasn't there! And to be happy with
what they produced!!

Time to serve a small claims notice on them if a polite conversation
doesn't result in payment / freebies!

Matt

You really think they will care? It would be nice if I could squeeze a
TVHunter out of them, but I can't see it happening! My TV Explorer is in for
repair with Promax at the moment, so I'll wait until I've got that back
before I have a word about nicking my picture......

I don't know if they will care, but if you are factually in the right
and get nowhere with a polite conversation then a cheap small claims
notice would at least prompt a response. Particularly where you are
a customer of theirs, I would have thought it would be excellent
customer relations to apologise for their error and compensate you -
even a bottle of whisky would be better than nothing!

Or a free repair on the Explorer...

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Cheers,

John.

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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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Disclaimer, I am not a graphic artist but ...

Have you been by the house recently? Does it still have the chimney
pots? Above all, does it still have the aerial you installed?

I ask, because I'm not absolutely convinced it's actually the same
picture. I outlined the roof and chimney in their photo ...
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/Carpy_1.png
... and then tried to make the outline fit those in yours ...
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/Carpy_2.png
... it's a pretty good fit certainly, but not quite exact towards the
LHS, which I think it would have to be for it to be actually the same
photo. I think the photos are probably of the same house taken from
almost the same vantage point, but perhaps a yard or two apart.

Beside the chimney pots having been probably overwritten when they
grafted on the sky along with the absurdly huge aerial (I wonder what
the windage would be if it really were that size) and the levitating
giant installer, there are other differences in the picture as well,
which could indicate it's actually a different but similar house, but
I think the greater number of similarities suggest it's the same
house.

+ The bracket and the piece of older metalwork the other side of the
chimney look to be identical, though the mast may have been replaced
when touching up the original photo.
+ Zooming in, the pattern of bricks in the chimney and the gaps
between courses appear exactly the same.
+ There's a chip or bright patch on the (can't remember the
technical building term) front facing corner tile 5th course down
which looks the same in both.
- The crap on the roof has gone.

At very least, you can try complaining. For one thing, if the aerial
on the house is actually still the one that you installed (so I
suggest you go and check), then the picture is misleading. It's also
misleading in terms of the proportions of the aerial and the windage
it implies. It may also be that my drawing is insufficiently accurate
(which wouldn't be surprising), that they have actually used your pic,
and might come clean to your advantage if you press them!

On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:13:24 -0000, "-GB-Carpy"
wrote:

Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?
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It's the same photo. No doubt at all about that.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:18:47 GMT, Dave Farrance
wrote:

"-GB-Carpy" wrote:

Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

I've used the "Gimp" to trace the roof with automatic near-colour
outline-tracing, then applied an exact 3:1 scaling between the two images,
and they're a perfect match. See he

http://imgur.com/61nko.jpg

(This was inspired by Java Jive'a attempt, which was a good idea in
principle, but it needed a little refining.)

And the advice from various people about redress... I know that most of us
are too teccy for our own good, but even somebody like me knows what
"having a laugh" is.

The owner of the house might want a share of the "winnings".

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

I bow to your superior graphics skills (I can't draw for toffees, the
artist in the family was/is my ex-wife)

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:18:47 GMT, Dave Farrance
wrote:

I've used the "Gimp" to trace the roof with automatic near-colour
outline-tracing, then applied an exact 3:1 scaling between the two images,
and they're a perfect match. See he

http://imgur.com/61nko.jpg

(This was inspired by Java Jive'a attempt, which was a good idea in
principle, but it needed a little refining.)
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On Dec 11, 12:24*pm, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:18:47 GMT, Dave Farrance





wrote:
"-GB-Carpy" wrote:

Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

I've used the "Gimp" to trace the roof with automatic near-colour
outline-tracing, then applied an exact 3:1 scaling between the two images,
and they're a perfect match. *See he

http://imgur.com/61nko.jpg

(This was inspired by Java Jive'a attempt, which was a good idea in
principle, but it needed a little refining.)

And the advice from various people about redress... I know that most of us
are too teccy for our own good, but even somebody like me knows what
"having a laugh" is.

The owner of the house might want a share of the "winnings".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Why? You don't own copyright in the way that your house looks (unless
you built it, when I suppose you might). You have copyright in
something you create (i.e. a photo). If David Bailey wanted to take a
photo of me (why, I know not!) he'd own the copyright of the photo.

Imagine if every subject of a photo was able to make a claim for a
share of the royalties - there'd be a whole industry of celebs agents
charging paparazzi for snatched photos!!

Matt

On Dec 9, 10:13*pm, "-GB-Carpy" wrote:
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

You want to ask them for a freebie. My picture of Little Mo with TETRA
all over her clock has been widely used.

Bill

In article , John
Rumm writes

Not only that, you appear to be a giant if the scale of the pole etc is
anything to go by. Another neat trick is how you can stand behind the
mast, and appear in front of the reflector of the back mount aerial on
said mast. That's before getting onto the shadow on the side of the
giant being on the side facing the sun.

Not only that, he's got his arse on back to front. Must be some
hangover.

The bottom half (the pants) is of someone facing the opposite way,
partially bent over.

And the photo of TV****er, the Service List shown is of Spanish
channels. The first one isn't what some people might think it is.

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"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
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Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Well I went into Promax UK, and asked if I could see whoever was responsible
for putting together this TVHunter PDF. They asked me why, so I said that
whoever did it had stolen my photo and I wanted to grill them about this.

They said Promax would never steal any photo, and it wasn't produced by the
UK team anyway - it was the Spanish lot. I assured them it was defnitely my
photo that has been used without my permission, but they said that's
impossible! I told them I would pursue the Spanish arm of Promax and see
what they say about it. Problem is, my Spanish is particularly poor, so I'm
a bit stuck on how to proceed from here! I reckon a free TV Hunter is
defnitely a goer, if I can push the right buttons and annoy them to the
point where they just want me to go away.....

"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
...

"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
...
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Well I went into Promax UK, and asked if I could see whoever was
responsible for putting together this TVHunter PDF. They asked me why, so
I said that whoever did it had stolen my photo and I wanted to grill them
about this.

They said Promax would never steal any photo, and it wasn't produced by
the UK team anyway - it was the Spanish lot. I assured them it was
defnitely my photo that has been used without my permission, but they said
that's impossible! I told them I would pursue the Spanish arm of Promax
and see what they say about it. Problem is, my Spanish is particularly
poor, so I'm a bit stuck on how to proceed from here! I reckon a free TV
Hunter is defnitely a goer, if I can push the right buttons and annoy them
to the point where they just want me to go away.....

IMHO I don't think it matters a damn who produced the photo - They published
on their website so they are responsible.

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Paul S

They said Promax would never steal any photo, and it wasn't produced by
the UK team anyway - it was the Spanish lot. I assured them it was
defnitely my photo that has been used without my permission, but they
said that's impossible! I told them I would pursue the Spanish arm of
Promax and see what they say about it. Problem is, my Spanish is
particularly poor, so I'm a bit stuck on how to proceed from here! I
reckon a free TV Hunter is defnitely a goer, if I can push the right
buttons and annoy them to the point where they just want me to go
away.....

IMHO I don't think it matters a damn who produced the photo - They
published on their website so they are responsible.

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Paul S

There is a freeware program called SMerge which you can use to overlap their
photo over yours to show that they two really are the same, right down to
the tiles.

And I agree with Paul S, their company, their website, their problem.

Is there a lawyer in the house?

Paul DS