HDMI cables vital?

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:22:38 -0800 (PST), Anthony
wrote:

I am considering in buying a Samsung lcd 55'' 120 tv, but found out
from the salesman that i need to buy hdmi cable if i want true hd tv.
Now, i have to get rid of my 55" projector tv, where i had to buy
numerous conponent cables for peripihials . ..and some were expensive,
not as much as a HDMI cable.though..is this hype or a necessity?..i
now have a closet of excellent various cables from past usage that i
probably could go into business.


As a few others have mentioned, www.monoprice.com is the way to go.
I'm amazed at how inexpensive the cable are every time I order some.
The quality is great (never had a problem) and they ship from
California, so you don't have long shipping times like you would for
international suppliers.

On 12/15/2009 3:22 PM, Anthony wrote:
I am considering in buying a Samsung lcd 55'' 120 tv, but found out
from the salesman that i need to buy hdmi cable if i want true hd tv.
Now, i have to get rid of my 55" projector tv, where i had to buy
numerous conponent cables for peripihials . ..and some were expensive,
not as much as a HDMI cable.though..is this hype or a necessity?..i
now have a closet of excellent various cables from past usage that i
probably could go into business.
monoprice.com or any other of the myriad of online sellers of HDMI will
get you what you need at a fraction of the cost of brick & mortar stores
charge. HDMI is the same as component cables but include the sound.
Salesman is padding the sale by telling you that HDMI is the only true HD.
Tee Jay

TeeJay1952 wrote:

HDMI is the same as component cables but include the sound.

Not even close. HDMI is digital. Component is analog. The audio and
video they each support is also quite different. HDMI is VERY much
different than component.

TeeJay1952 wrote:
On 12/15/2009 3:22 PM, Anthony wrote:
I am considering in buying a Samsung lcd 55'' 120 tv, but found out
from the salesman that i need to buy hdmi cable if i want true hd tv.
Now, i have to get rid of my 55" projector tv, where i had to buy
numerous conponent cables for peripihials . ..and some were expensive,
not as much as a HDMI cable.though..is this hype or a necessity?..i
now have a closet of excellent various cables from past usage that i
probably could go into business.
monoprice.com or any other of the myriad of online sellers of HDMI will
get you what you need at a fraction of the cost of brick & mortar stores
charge.


HDMI is the same as component cables but include the sound.
Salesman is padding the sale by telling you that HDMI is the only true HD.
Tee Jay

Jay, I'm going to take a chance here and contradict you:

HDMI is digital:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

"Component video is a video signal that has been split into two or more
components. In popular use, it refers to a type of analog video
information that is transmitted or stored as three separate signals."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video

So HDMI is "better", but not everybody will see the difference on every
show.

The definition of "true" is anybody's guess!

"RickMerrill" wrote in message
...
| TeeJay1952 wrote:
| On 12/15/2009 3:22 PM, Anthony wrote:
| I am considering in buying a Samsung lcd 55'' 120 tv, but found out
| from the salesman that i need to buy hdmi cable if i want true hd tv.
| Now, i have to get rid of my 55" projector tv, where i had to buy
| numerous conponent cables for peripihials . ..and some were expensive,
| not as much as a HDMI cable.though..is this hype or a necessity?..i
| now have a closet of excellent various cables from past usage that i
| probably could go into business.
| monoprice.com or any other of the myriad of online sellers of HDMI will
| get you what you need at a fraction of the cost of brick & mortar stores
| charge.
|
|
| HDMI is the same as component cables but include the sound.
| Salesman is padding the sale by telling you that HDMI is the only true
HD.
| Tee Jay
|
| Jay, I'm going to take a chance here and contradict you:
|
| HDMI is digital:
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
|
| "Component video is a video signal that has been split into two or more
| components. In popular use, it refers to a type of analog video
| information that is transmitted or stored as three separate signals."
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video
|
| So HDMI is "better", but not everybody will see the difference on every
| show.
|
| The definition of "true" is anybody's guess!

I think the bottom line is what the display is.
I have a Sony superfine pitch CRT (best blacks in town!)
I find no difference between HDMI and component.
It's a question of D/A conversion no? (digital--analog)
My satt receiver gives me both options-- component or HDMI
I look at it this way:
component has already converted D to A, so my set doesn't have to
HDMI feeds D to my set which then converts it to A.
So there is one conversion either way
However....
With a fixed pixel display in theory the HDMI technically should deliver a
"better" picture since there is no conversion if HDMI is used. It is D to D.
All being said, though, other factors. such as viewing distance could easily
trump that.

--
Regards,
Richard Harison

LightByrd wrote:
"RickMerrill" wrote in message
...
| TeeJay1952 wrote:
| On 12/15/2009 3:22 PM, Anthony wrote:
| I am considering in buying a Samsung lcd 55'' 120 tv, but found out
| from the salesman that i need to buy hdmi cable if i want true hd tv.
| Now, i have to get rid of my 55" projector tv, where i had to buy
| numerous conponent cables for peripihials . ..and some were expensive,
| not as much as a HDMI cable.though..is this hype or a necessity?..i
| now have a closet of excellent various cables from past usage that i
| probably could go into business.
| monoprice.com or any other of the myriad of online sellers of HDMI will
| get you what you need at a fraction of the cost of brick & mortar stores
| charge.
|
|
| HDMI is the same as component cables but include the sound.
| Salesman is padding the sale by telling you that HDMI is the only true
HD.
| Tee Jay
|
| Jay, I'm going to take a chance here and contradict you:
|
| HDMI is digital:
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
|
| "Component video is a video signal that has been split into two or more
| components. In popular use, it refers to a type of analog video
| information that is transmitted or stored as three separate signals."
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video
|
| So HDMI is "better", but not everybody will see the difference on every
| show.
|
| The definition of "true" is anybody's guess!

I think the bottom line is what the display is.
I have a Sony superfine pitch CRT (best blacks in town!)
I find no difference between HDMI and component.
It's a question of D/A conversion no? (digital--analog)
My satt receiver gives me both options-- component or HDMI
I look at it this way:
component has already converted D to A, so my set doesn't have to
HDMI feeds D to my set which then converts it to A.
So there is one conversion either way
However....
With a fixed pixel display in theory the HDMI technically should deliver a
"better" picture since there is no conversion if HDMI is used. It is D to D.
All being said, though, other factors. such as viewing distance could easily
trump that.


Absolutely. And the shorter the wires the less the difference will be.
I've seen people use 100 feet of s-video and claim to see no difference.
I've seen others say they can see a difference between 6' and 12' cables
- weeelllll...

"RickMerrill" wrote in message
...


So HDMI is "better", but not everybody will see the difference on every
show.


HDMI is on paper better for video, easier for sound, TERRIBLE for waiting
for a handshake from another HDMI device! The wait time for HDMI handshaking
is on the verge of intolerable to me and I'm considering just switching
everything to component video and digital audio connections to regain some
semblance of 'real-time" control over my equipment.

"RickMerrill" wrote in message
...
| LightByrd wrote:
| "RickMerrill" wrote in message
| ...
| | TeeJay1952 wrote:
| | On 12/15/2009 3:22 PM, Anthony wrote:
| | I am considering in buying a Samsung lcd 55'' 120 tv, but found
out
| | from the salesman that i need to buy hdmi cable if i want true hd
tv.
| | Now, i have to get rid of my 55" projector tv, where i had to buy
| | numerous conponent cables for peripihials . ..and some were
expensive,
| | not as much as a HDMI cable.though..is this hype or a necessity?..i
| | now have a closet of excellent various cables from past usage that
i
| | probably could go into business.
| | monoprice.com or any other of the myriad of online sellers of HDMI
will
| | get you what you need at a fraction of the cost of brick & mortar
stores
| | charge.
| |
| |
| | HDMI is the same as component cables but include the sound.
| | Salesman is padding the sale by telling you that HDMI is the only
true
| HD.
| | Tee Jay
| |
| | Jay, I'm going to take a chance here and contradict you:
| |
| | HDMI is digital:
| | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
| |
| | "Component video is a video signal that has been split into two or
more
| | components. In popular use, it refers to a type of analog video
| | information that is transmitted or stored as three separate signals."
| | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video
| |
| | So HDMI is "better", but not everybody will see the difference on
every
| | show.
| |
| | The definition of "true" is anybody's guess!
|
| I think the bottom line is what the display is.
| I have a Sony superfine pitch CRT (best blacks in town!)
| I find no difference between HDMI and component.
| It's a question of D/A conversion no? (digital--analog)
| My satt receiver gives me both options-- component or HDMI
| I look at it this way:
| component has already converted D to A, so my set doesn't have to
| HDMI feeds D to my set which then converts it to A.
| So there is one conversion either way
| However....
| With a fixed pixel display in theory the HDMI technically should deliver
a
| "better" picture since there is no conversion if HDMI is used. It is D
to D.
| All being said, though, other factors. such as viewing distance could
easily
| trump that.
|
|
| Absolutely. And the shorter the wires the less the difference will be.
| I've seen people use 100 feet of s-video and claim to see no difference.
| I've seen others say they can see a difference between 6' and 12' cables
| - weeelllll...


Oh yes, Rick...
Did I forget to include varying compression schemes?

--
Regards,
Richard Harison

"Anthony" wrote in message
...
I am considering in buying a Samsung lcd 55'' 120 tv, but found out
from the salesman that i need to buy hdmi cable if i want true hd tv.
Now, i have to get rid of my 55" projector tv, where i had to buy
numerous conponent cables for peripihials . ..and some were expensive,
not as much as a HDMI cable.though..is this hype or a necessity?..i
now have a closet of excellent various cables from past usage that i
probably could go into business.

While a Component connection can and does support 1080P, because of
DRM(Digital Rights Management), I believe Blu-Ray is reduced to a 540P
Output Resolution. Also a lot of HDTV's won't accept 1080P though Component
either. Some do though and it would be fine for your Xbox 360 or PS3 for
Gaming. No DRM for games.

HDMI is Digital and uses HDCP (High Definition Content Protection) Which is
why 1080P is allowed. Because HDMI is Digital, all that's going though the
cable is ZERO's and ONES, or Voltage/No Voltage. Also because the HDMI
specs are so high, that even if there was a few missing pixels, you would
NEVER see it!!! So while a better Quality ANALOG cable may help a bit,
with HDMI, your basically throwing your money away on a expensive cable.
If you have to make a really long run, like you have a Front Projector and
your Hardware is off in a closet quite a bit away, that's a long cable run,
and a better quality cable may be a good Idea. If you in a rush for a HDMI
cable, get a $20 cable from Wal-Mart or something, otherwise if you can wait
a few days, MONOPRICE.COM have great HDMI cables for under $5 each!!! I've
been using them and they work great!!! I have a large collection of
cables myself from all kinds of things over the years, I'll never use again.
I have a few Unopened packages of Composite and Component cables also I may
never use. It's just how it is.

After getting my newest Surround Sound Receiver last Dec, which has 5 HDMI
Inputs, I got rid of ALL of my Component cables and Optical Audio cables.
With all my hardware, I'm using 4 HDMI ports, and a S-Video port for old
TIVO and all goes out though a single HDMI cable to my HDTV. I got rid of
a whole lot of cable clutter. So that's a plus with HDMI!!!

"dan" wrote in message
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On 12/15/2009 12:22 PM, Anthony wrote:
I am considering in buying a Samsung lcd 55'' 120 tv, but found out
from the salesman that i need to buy hdmi cable if i want true hd tv.
Now, i have to get rid of my 55" projector tv, where i had to buy
numerous conponent cables for peripihials . ..and some were expensive,
not as much as a HDMI cable.though..is this hype or a necessity?..i
now have a closet of excellent various cables from past usage that i
probably could go into business.

HDMI carries the video AND audio signals digitally from your equipment, if
they also have an HDMI output. It is the best signal quality.

Buy these:
http://www.buy.com/prod/3-pack-of-su...211044067.html

At that price, they are certainly worth it, and nice to have around.

dan


Looks like a great deal there.