home video on dvd Warning

GMAN wrote:
I still have the scsi drives from my Atari ST chugging along fine since 1985.

Must fire up my ST506 again. It was fine last year...

Andy

In article , Andy Champ wrote:
GMAN wrote:
I still have the scsi drives from my Atari ST chugging along fine since 1985.

Must fire up my ST506 again. It was fine last year...

Andy
Whats funny is i have an old Adaptec 4070 RLL controller that drove an old
20MB MFM hard drive at 30MB. It still powers on today with my ST.

"GMAN" wrote in message
...
I still have the scsi drives from my Atari ST chugging along fine since
1985.

Ahhh - I remember those. I had a 20MB Atari one with my 14" mono monitor sat
on top of it. They made a kind of squeaky bleep noise when data was accessed
instead of the more modern clicking noise modern hard drives do. I miss that
noise...

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Vincent

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:43:19 -0000, "Vincent"
wrote:

They made a kind of squeaky bleep noise when data was accessed
instead of the more modern clicking noise modern hard drives do.

The beeping noise came from the stepper motor that was used to move
the heads. Nowadays, voice coils are used in stead of steppers.

Funnily, on even brand new films, set at today or even in the future,
whenever a scene takes place in a computer room of some sort, the
beeping from several stepper motors can still be heard in the
background.
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RoRo

On 7-Dec-2009, Robert Roland wrote:

Funnily, on even brand new films, set at today or even in the future,
whenever a scene takes place in a computer room of some sort, the
beeping from several stepper motors can still be heard in the
background.

And most of them still show mag tape (obviously studio
effects and not working) drives, plus other obsolete and
non-relevant hardware. Scopes with Lissajou figures,
continuously cycling displays, etc.
Because that is what film makers think todays hardware
looks like. War Games was a prime recent example, things
don't seem to have moved on much from then.
The sound of stepper motors is from library sound
archives, "That is the sound computers make" everybody
knows that.

Robert Roland writes:

Funnily, on even brand new films, set at today or even in the future,
whenever a scene takes place in a computer room of some sort, the
beeping from several stepper motors can still be heard in the
background.

At least now they do not just rows of (reel-to-reel) tape decks.

On 2009-12-01, Vincent wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message
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I have just checked my DVDs with home video on them and some are unreadable
and some are fussy.

I suggest anyone with similar should do the same. before it is too late.

Yep - recordable optical media seems to become unreadable in a few years.
I've noticed this too. I used to backup my Playstation 1 games and use the
backups. They were expensive branded CDs, and now all of them (10 years
later) are unreadable.

I read a page online about this phenomenon a few years ago, and the theory
was that over time normal light (from sun, bulbs, etc) would blank the
discs. While the laser (which is just light of a specific wavelength) was
much more powerful, it was only on each bit (or pit) of the disc for an
extremely short time. Over the years, the ambient light adds up to a pass
with the laser. I'm not saying this is true, but it's what I read, and I do
have some support for this as media I've kept in a metal safe (i.e. dark)
has been fine, despite being recorded on the same burner and the media being
the same type.

Sorry I'm late. I've been trying to tidy the computer room. I noticed,
amongst the crap I accumulate, an ancient cd-r still in its
wrapper, unopened. It had been there since prob 2001 or 2002, on a shelf.
It's not exposed to light really, it's a deep shelf.

Anyway, it looked like the dye within the cd had seeped or reacted or
something. There was a brown pattern within the CD. Note: coffee had NOT
been spilled on it

Upon inspection, the dye had not seeped *out* of the cd. It was a purely
internal transformation. I didn't try it in the player, maybe I should
have.

Now, I'm old enough to remember the tomorrow's world programme
explaining the newfangled cd technology and how data thus stored would
last a jillion years. Like a lot of things, it seems it ain't so.

What I need to find is media that will last decades. Like my old TDK
tapes!

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comp.john

In article , Ato_Zee wrote:
Funnily, on even brand new films, set at today or even in the future,
whenever a scene takes place in a computer room of some sort, the
beeping from several stepper motors can still be heard in the
background.

And most of them still show mag tape (obviously studio
effects and not working) drives, plus other obsolete and
non-relevant hardware. Scopes with Lissajou figures,
continuously cycling displays, etc.
Because that is what film makers think todays hardware
looks like. War Games was a prime recent example, things
don't seem to have moved on much from then.
The sound of stepper motors is from library sound
archives, "That is the sound computers make" everybody
knows that.

Same with camera shutters. It's always a 35mm SLR with motor drive,
regardless of the type of camera. Of course, you could argue that it
isn't quite so silly to do this with digital stills cameras because most
of them have the silliness built in. Even the ones with no mechanical
parts that need to move when a picture is taken, apart from the almost
inaudible iris mechanism, usually have a recording that plays the camera
sounds of yesteryear through a little loudspeaker. It seems about as
sensible as equipping a modern car with a loudspeaker to play the sound
of a Model T, perhaps with a few backfire effects just for fun.

Rod.
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In article , wrote:

On 7-Dec-2009, Robert Roland wrote:

Funnily, on even brand new films, set at today or even in the future,
whenever a scene takes place in a computer room of some sort, the
beeping from several stepper motors can still be heard in the
background.

And most of them still show mag tape (obviously studio
effects and not working) drives, plus other obsolete and
non-relevant hardware. Scopes with Lissajou figures,
continuously cycling displays, etc.
Because that is what film makers think todays hardware
looks like. War Games was a prime recent example, things
don't seem to have moved on much from then.
The sound of stepper motors is from library sound
archives, "That is the sound computers make" everybody
knows that.
Wargames, early 1980's recent?

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
message .myzen.co.uk...
In article , Ato_Zee wrote:
Funnily, on even brand new films, set at today or even in the future,
whenever a scene takes place in a computer room of some sort, the
beeping from several stepper motors can still be heard in the
background.

And most of them still show mag tape (obviously studio
effects and not working) drives, plus other obsolete and
non-relevant hardware. Scopes with Lissajou figures,
continuously cycling displays, etc.
Because that is what film makers think todays hardware
looks like. War Games was a prime recent example, things
don't seem to have moved on much from then.
The sound of stepper motors is from library sound
archives, "That is the sound computers make" everybody
knows that.

Same with camera shutters. It's always a 35mm SLR with motor drive,
regardless of the type of camera. Of course, you could argue that it
isn't quite so silly to do this with digital stills cameras because most
of them have the silliness built in. Even the ones with no mechanical
parts that need to move when a picture is taken, apart from the almost
inaudible iris mechanism, usually have a recording that plays the camera
sounds of yesteryear through a little loudspeaker. It seems about as
sensible as equipping a modern car with a loudspeaker to play the sound
of a Model T, perhaps with a few backfire effects just for fun.

Rod.
--
Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/

If our current nanny government has its way that is exactly what will happen
to electric, hybrid and other "silent" cars, because people say they can't
hear them coming. Utter boll**ks of course - they didn't feel the need to
do it to the old Roller's did they? Anyway, that's what the hooter's
for.......,-)

Chas