You will need new equipment for HD TV, what you got is no good.

On 06/12/09 15:24, Peter Duncanson wrote:

On 06 Dec 2009 14:13 Andy Burns wrote:

On 06/12/09 14:11, Peter Duncanson wrote:

People who don't watch the adverts will not buy the
advertised products.

Bzzzt!

I know! I did realise, too late, that I could have lengthened the
sentence to make it more precise.

It's touching, the amount of faith that companies place in advertising,
many's the time I've seen a new product on the shelves and tried it,
then noticed the advert campaign start a few weeks later.

Andy Burns writes:

It's touching, the amount of faith that companies place in
advertising, many's the time I've seen a new product on the shelves
and tried it, then noticed the advert campaign start a few weeks
later.

Or the other way round, you see the advert and decide to try the new
product but cannot see it in any shops. By the time you do see it in
shops, the impulse to try it has passed.

"David" wrote in message
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I had thought with having Freesat HD built in I was doing the right thing.
Apparently not.





if you're able to receive the satellite HD broadcasts, why would you want to
watch the terrestrial ones with their lower bitrates anyway?



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On 2009-12-05, David wrote:
Do not buy a new TV, do not be taken in by the digital Tick on box or set on
a HD TV set.
BBC just annouced on the BBC News programme Click new equipment will be
needed for BBC HD, ITV, Ch4 and Five in HD next year
My new TV which now gets BBC HD and ITV1 (limited) will need new equipment
for the starting CH4 and Five. in HD.
This was from a Digital TV Group spokesman.
So all the other posts on this group about this are now official to Joe
Public.
Regards
David

wait, what?

Last month I bought a nice new 42inch panasonic plasma. It has freeview
and freesat built-in. It's updateable via internet (it has an ethernet
port). It's HD with all the trimmings. This isn't some discounted piece
of equipment that's been sitting in a warehouse. Panasonic still make
this model, it's in production right now.

Here it is: http://tinyurl.com/yf8t5lj

Are you telling me that its freeviewHD is now obsolete? Does this also
apply to freesat?

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comp.john

On 2009-12-05, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

Nobody has claimed that a HD ready TV with built in freeview tuner will
receive HD Freeview transmissions.

Do you not think it is reasonable to expect a HD-compatible TV that
comes with its own tuner, that its tuner will be HD-compatible?

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comp.john

On 07/12/09 10:03, comp.john wrote:

Here it is: http://tinyurl.com/yf8t5lj

Are you telling me that its freeviewHD is now obsolete? Does this also
apply to freesat?

Yep, it'll still receive DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 (seems only the Nordic
models receive DVB-C) but not DVB-T2, so by itself it will only receive
HD from satellite not the aerial.

On 2009-12-07, Andy Burns wrote:
On 07/12/09 10:03, comp.john wrote:

Here it is: http://tinyurl.com/yf8t5lj

Are you telling me that its freeviewHD is now obsolete? Does this also
apply to freesat?

Yep, it'll still receive DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 (seems only the Nordic
models receive DVB-C) but not DVB-T2, so by itself it will only receive
HD from satellite not the aerial.

OK that's it - sod freeview. Forgive my french but this is ****ed up
beyond beleif. This is going to annoy loads of people. I look to
replacing the telly after 7 or so years, lots of people think this way.
I get the most current product possible and it's obsolete the moment I
get it.

Is there any danger of the same thing happening to freesat?

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comp.john

On 07/12/09 10:38, comp.john wrote:

Is there any danger of the same thing happening to freesat?

Probably not within your 7 year timeframe, but who's to say that e.g
DVB-S3 modulation or a Dirac codec might be used in future, rendering
all current freesat receivers obsolete?

"comp.john" wrote in message
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Is there any danger of the same thing happening to freesat?


A very good question.
Over the years I have had to change Terrestrial digital boxes and Freeview
ones due to changes or additions made by broadcasters so why should Freesat
be free from changes.
Regards
David

On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:38:34 +0000 (UTC), "comp.john"
wrote:

On 2009-12-07, Andy Burns wrote:
On 07/12/09 10:03, comp.john wrote:

Here it is: http://tinyurl.com/yf8t5lj

Are you telling me that its freeviewHD is now obsolete? Does this also
apply to freesat?

Yep, it'll still receive DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 (seems only the Nordic
models receive DVB-C) but not DVB-T2, so by itself it will only receive
HD from satellite not the aerial.

OK that's it - sod freeview. Forgive my french but this is ****ed up
beyond beleif. This is going to annoy loads of people. I look to
replacing the telly after 7 or so years, lots of people think this way.
I get the most current product possible and it's obsolete the moment I
get it.

Is there any danger of the same thing happening to freesat?

It's worth checking how the TV was advertised, or what you were told
by the seller. If you were advised that it would receive terrestrial
HD, or that it was future-proofed in some way, you will have a good
case for getting your money back under the Sale of Goods Act. It's
'not fit for purpose'.