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Old November 25th 09, 09:30 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Anthony
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I have a hdtv set and would like to use a splitter going to my other
hdtv in another room. BTW, that other TV is also a monitor. When I
hooked the splitter up, I get similar to my main tv, but they all
comes on chnl 3 and i have to use the cable remote to change channels.
Upon trying this I am not getting true hd, cause when i come to a hd
channel, i click on info display and the same channel that is shown on
my main tv shows it as 1080i, but on the other one its shown as SD
480i. Why can't i get the same resolution as the main TV, or is this
not possible?
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Old November 25th 09, 10:28 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Charlie Hoffpauir
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), Anthony
wrote:

I have a hdtv set and would like to use a splitter going to my other
hdtv in another room. BTW, that other TV is also a monitor. When I
hooked the splitter up, I get similar to my main tv, but they all
comes on chnl 3 and i have to use the cable remote to change channels.
Upon trying this I am not getting true hd, cause when i come to a hd
channel, i click on info display and the same channel that is shown on
my main tv shows it as 1080i, but on the other one its shown as SD
480i. Why can't i get the same resolution as the main TV, or is this
not possible?


You don't say what you are trying to "split". If it's a coax from an
antenna, then it should work fine. If it's coax from a satellite dish,
then it won't work. If it's coax from a set top box, then it probably
won't work (at least the way you want it to). A bit more detail on
what you are doing would be helpful.
  #3  
Old November 26th 09, 01:08 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Anthony
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On Nov 25, 4:28*pm, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), Anthony
wrote:

I have a hdtv set and would like to use a splitter going to my other
hdtv in another room. BTW, that other TV is also a monitor. When I
hooked the splitter up, I get *similar to *my main tv, but they all
comes on chnl 3 and i have to use the cable remote to change channels.
Upon trying this I am not getting true hd, cause when i come to a hd
channel, i click on info display and the same channel that is shown on
my main tv shows it as 1080i, but on the other one its shown as SD
480i. Why can't i get the same resolution as the main TV, or is this
not possible?


You don't say what you are trying to "split". If it's a coax from an
antenna, then it should work fine. If it's coax from a satellite dish,
then it won't work. If it's coax from a set top box, then it probably
won't work (at least the way you want it to). A bit more detail on
what you are doing would be helpful.


Sorry, yes i was trying to take the output of my cable box into the in
of a splitter and then each output of the splitter ...one going back
to the input of the cable box and the other to the input of the TV
monitor. Is there a way that this could be done? Apparently it can be
done..the dish and cable companies say they would hook up your cable
up to 4 different rooms, free of charge.
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Old November 26th 09, 05:09 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Stewart
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Default Can this be done?


"Anthony" wrote in message
...
On Nov 25, 4:28 pm, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), Anthony

wrote:

I have a hdtv set and would like to use a splitter going to my
other
hdtv in another room. BTW, that other TV is also a monitor. When I
hooked the splitter up, I get similar to my main tv, but they
all
comes on chnl 3 and i have to use the cable remote to change
channels.
Upon trying this I am not getting true hd, cause when i come to a
hd
channel, i click on info display and the same channel that is
shown on
my main tv shows it as 1080i, but on the other one its shown as SD
480i. Why can't i get the same resolution as the main TV, or is
this
not possible?


You don't say what you are trying to "split". If it's a coax from
an
antenna, then it should work fine. If it's coax from a satellite
dish,
then it won't work. If it's coax from a set top box, then it
probably
won't work (at least the way you want it to). A bit more detail on
what you are doing would be helpful.


Sorry, yes i was trying to take the output of my cable box into the
in
of a splitter and then each output of the splitter ...one going back
to the input of the cable box and the other to the input of the TV
monitor. Is there a way that this could be done? Apparently it can
be
done..the dish and cable companies say they would hook up your cable
up to 4 different rooms, free of charge.


Your cable box probably has a few different outputs (Coax, HDMI,
Component). Use one the HDMI or component outputs to the 2nd monitor,
as the cable box usually send signals out of multiple outputs (at
least my Motorola box does).


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Old November 26th 09, 05:19 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
whosbest54[_2_]
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Default Can this be done?

In article
,
says...
On Nov 25, 4:28*pm, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), Anthony
wrote:

I have a hdtv set and would like to use a splitter going to my other
hdtv in another room. BTW, that other TV is also a monitor. When I
hooked the splitter up, I get *similar to *my main tv, but they all
comes on chnl 3 and i have to use the cable remote to change channels.
Upon trying this I am not getting true hd, cause when i come to a hd
channel, i click on info display and the same channel that is shown on
my main tv shows it as 1080i, but on the other one its shown as SD
480i. Why can't i get the same resolution as the main TV, or is this
not possible?


You don't say what you are trying to "split". If it's a coax from an
antenna, then it should work fine. If it's coax from a satellite dish,
then it won't work. If it's coax from a set top box, then it probably
won't work (at least the way you want it to). A bit more detail on
what you are doing would be helpful.


Sorry, yes i was trying to take the output of my cable box into the in
of a splitter and then each output of the splitter ...one going back
to the input of the cable box and the other to the input of the TV
monitor. Is there a way that this could be done? Apparently it can be
done..the dish and cable companies say they would hook up your cable
up to 4 different rooms, free of charge.

The dish and cable companies aren't referring to a box RF out when they
talk about the number of sets that can be hooked up.

The RF out from a cable box is SD on a VHF channel in 480i, definitely not
HD. That out is controlled by the box remote, as you found. You don't
want to use that for HD. I would guess your set with the cable box, which
I assume is a HD capable box, is hooked up using a component or HDMI
cable, not the RF out.

If you have enough signal, it may be possible to take the cable from the
wall, hook up a splitter to that and split the output between the input of
your cable box on the current cable box TV and the antenna input on the
set in the other room. If the set in the other room has a digital QAM
tuner, you may get some clear (unencrypted) QAM digital stations, often
including some of the local over the air (OTA) HD stations. If it only
has an ATSC OTA digital tuner, then you won't get any digital cable
stations. You could get local OTA digital stations with an antenna. If
it has an analog NTSC cable ready tuner, you will get any unscrambled
analog SD stations you subscribe to.

If you want the second set to get all the stations your set with the cable
box gets, then you need a second box, or if the second set has a slot for
it, a cable card, if your cable system offers them.

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Old November 26th 09, 09:51 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Rick Merrill[_3_]
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whosbest54 wrote:
In article
,
says...
On Nov 25, 4:28 pm, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:30:10 -0800 (PST), Anthony
wrote:

I have a hdtv set and would like to use a splitter going to my other
hdtv in another room. BTW, that other TV is also a monitor. When I
hooked the splitter up, I get similar to my main tv, but they all
comes on chnl 3 and i have to use the cable remote to change channels.
Upon trying this I am not getting true hd, cause when i come to a hd
channel, i click on info display and the same channel that is shown on
my main tv shows it as 1080i, but on the other one its shown as SD
480i. Why can't i get the same resolution as the main TV, or is this
not possible?
You don't say what you are trying to "split". If it's a coax from an
antenna, then it should work fine. If it's coax from a satellite dish,
then it won't work. If it's coax from a set top box, then it probably
won't work (at least the way you want it to). A bit more detail on
what you are doing would be helpful.

Sorry, yes i was trying to take the output of my cable box into the in
of a splitter and then each output of the splitter ...one going back
to the input of the cable box and the other to the input of the TV
monitor. Is there a way that this could be done? Apparently it can be
done..the dish and cable companies say they would hook up your cable
up to 4 different rooms, free of charge.

The dish and cable companies aren't referring to a box RF out when they
talk about the number of sets that can be hooked up.

The RF out from a cable box is SD on a VHF channel in 480i, definitely not
HD. That out is controlled by the box remote, as you found. You don't
want to use that for HD. I would guess your set with the cable box, which
I assume is a HD capable box, is hooked up using a component or HDMI
cable, not the RF out.

If you have enough signal, it may be possible to take the cable from the
wall, hook up a splitter to that and split the output between the input of
your cable box on the current cable box TV and the antenna input on the
set in the other room. If the set in the other room has a digital QAM
tuner, you may get some clear (unencrypted) QAM digital stations, often
including some of the local over the air (OTA) HD stations. If it only
has an ATSC OTA digital tuner, then you won't get any digital cable
stations.


All new sets in the USA will let you choose between ATSC (antenna) and
QAM (cable) and they will have NTSC as well.


You could get local OTA digital stations with an antenna. If
it has an analog NTSC cable ready tuner, you will get any unscrambled
analog SD stations you subscribe to.

If you want the second set to get all the stations your set with the cable
box gets, then you need a second box, or if the second set has a slot for
it, a cable card, if your cable system offers them.

whosbest54

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Old November 26th 09, 10:31 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
UCLAN
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Rick Merrill wrote:

All new sets in the USA will let you choose between ATSC (antenna) and QAM
(cable) and they will have NTSC as well.


True that most sets will let you choose between antenna and cable, BUT...

ATSC is a group of audio/video codecs.
QAM is a modulation method.

The set will handle 8VSB modulated ATSC, QAM modulated ATSC, or NTSC.
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Old November 27th 09, 05:49 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Rick Merrill[_3_]
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UCLAN wrote:
Rick Merrill wrote:

All new sets in the USA will let you choose between ATSC (antenna) and
QAM
(cable) and they will have NTSC as well.


True that most sets will let you choose between antenna and cable, BUT...

ATSC is a group of audio/video codecs.
QAM is a modulation method.

The set will handle 8VSB modulated ATSC, QAM modulated ATSC, or NTSC.


Heh heh - it depends on your point of view:
ATSC ::= Advanced Television Systems Committee if you are into standards.
ATSC & QAM are digital transmission methods.

If you're the cable guy, ATSC ::= needs an antenna

If you're an EE you'll see a distinction between 64QAM/256QAM

If you're a computer guy :-) you'll see "codex" behind every bush.

But for most consumers ATSC==antenna; QAM==coax; NTSC==DVD player;
BD==bludisk, ...


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Old November 27th 09, 09:40 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
UCLAN[_2_]
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Rick Merrill wrote:

All new sets in the USA will let you choose between ATSC (antenna)
and QAM
(cable) and they will have NTSC as well.


True that most sets will let you choose between antenna and cable, BUT...

ATSC is a group of audio/video codecs.
QAM is a modulation method.

The set will handle 8VSB modulated ATSC, QAM modulated ATSC, or NTSC.


Heh heh - it depends on your point of view:
ATSC ::= Advanced Television Systems Committee if you are into standards.
ATSC & QAM are digital transmission methods.


NO!

8VSB and QAM are *modulation* methods, both used with ATSC signals (8VSB
with OTA; QAM with cable.)

ATSC is *NOT* a modulation method. ATSC (the signal) is a digital transmission
standard containing numerous audio/video codecs. It was created by the ATSC
(the group) which is the Advanced Television Systems Committee.
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Old November 27th 09, 09:48 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Rick Merrill[_3_]
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Default Can this be done?

UCLAN wrote:
Rick Merrill wrote:

All new sets in the USA will let you choose between ATSC (antenna)
and QAM
(cable) and they will have NTSC as well.

True that most sets will let you choose between antenna and cable,
BUT...

ATSC is a group of audio/video codecs.
QAM is a modulation method.

The set will handle 8VSB modulated ATSC, QAM modulated ATSC, or NTSC.


Heh heh - it depends on your point of view:
ATSC ::= Advanced Television Systems Committee if you are into standards.
ATSC & QAM are digital transmission methods.


NO!

8VSB and QAM are *modulation* methods, both used with ATSC signals (8VSB
with OTA; QAM with cable.)

ATSC is *NOT* a modulation method. ATSC (the signal) is a digital
transmission
standard containing numerous audio/video codecs. It was created by the ATSC
(the group) which is the Advanced Television Systems Committee.


You're repeating me... According to the EE's "all signals are analog
signals!"

 




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