Humax 9200T issues.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:42:11 +0100, Paul D.Smith
wrote:

That I've not noticed, but thinking about this, the Humax normally buffers
(records as it goes) about 2hours of whatever channel you are watching so
you can pause, wind backwards etc. to either the point at which you changed
channel or 2 hours, whichever is shorter. I wonder if it continues to do
this even if you are watching something you recorded earlier?

It doesn't. It'll only buffer when not playing back. Obviously it won't
buffer if both recording channels are in use either, and it sometimes
throws away the buffer when recordings start/stop, which is exceedingly
annoying if you happen to be watching it.

In message , Paul Ratcliffe
writes
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:42:11 +0100, Paul D.Smith
wrote:

That I've not noticed, but thinking about this, the Humax normally buffers
(records as it goes) about 2hours of whatever channel you are watching so
you can pause, wind backwards etc. to either the point at which you changed
channel or 2 hours, whichever is shorter. I wonder if it continues to do
this even if you are watching something you recorded earlier?

It doesn't. It'll only buffer when not playing back. Obviously it won't
buffer if both recording channels are in use either, and it sometimes
throws away the buffer when recordings start/stop, which is exceedingly
annoying if you happen to be watching it.

Suspect that knocks on the head one possible problem solution. One of
the problems here is that it may not stop or rewind or do much at all
except carry on playing back- both of mine are quite likely to go into
x2 x4 x16 playback but will not display what the higher playback speeds
are even if this is what is happening . The way to overcome this
appeared to be to pause between pushes of the button.

Anyway I have assumed that the processor was off checking the other
incoming channels or buffering and have removed the low level BBC one
that was there and also deleted from the received list all the rest of
the not wanted - all the radio channels like Kerrang, the teletext
channels especially Rabbit, the TV channels like Gems TV and Red Hot.
The idea was to minimise the number of channels listed so that the
disruption caused by trying to decode a disrupted signal could be
minimised. Things are more dependable but then so are the incoming
signals.

One thing that I had in mind was after the first BBC Mux had delivered
the EPG was to leave the receiver on the strongest channel so that the
incoming signal was subjected to minimal disturbance. But with the news
that the device does not buffer if in playback this sounds as if it it
would be a waste of time.

Certainly it seems a waste of time expecting a fix from Humax so I will
keep a look out for problems with other PVRs so that the replacements
are more reliable.

I have assumed that the models following the 9200 ones are based on the
same thing. Have I got that wrong?

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I can clear the remote lock-up by switching off the Humax and switching on
again. It's then OK till next time.
I wonder if the problem is due to fragmentation of the HDD. I'm a bit of a
magpie and save a lot of stuff on the drive, but I have noticed that if I
clear some disc space, the lock-ups seem less. It maybe co-incidence, but I
wonder what people's experience is with emptyish discs?
My Sony 870 has (of course) a de-frag facility. What a fine machine the 870
is: it gives the impression that someone at Sony actually used it before
putting it on the market. The only (slight) problem is that it will only
record one channel (hence the Humax has escaped the bin).

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/124340080.aspx

"Gerald wrote:

I can clear the remote lock-up by switching off the Humax and switching on
again. It's then OK till next time.
I wonder if the problem is due to fragmentation of the HDD. I'm a bit of a
magpie and save a lot of stuff on the drive, but I have noticed that if I
clear some disc space, the lock-ups seem less. It maybe co-incidence, but I
wonder what people's experience is with emptyish discs?
My Sony 870 has (of course) a de-frag facility. What a fine machine the 870
is: it gives the impression that someone at Sony actually used it before
putting it on the market. The only (slight) problem is that it will only
record one channel (hence the Humax has escaped the bin).

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/124340080.aspx

I've not noticed any problem related to the disk space, myself, but I
don't fill it so much. My Humax 9200T has locked up, perhaps once every
few months, requiring power cycling.

According to people on the DigitalSpy forums, the 9200T's processor got a
bit overloaded following the introduction of the split NIT on Freeview.

It can be slow to respond to commands from the remote during the first 15
minutes after switch on as it loads the EPG. A fix for this is to refresh
the channel list, then prune the TV channels (those below 100) down to 30
or so. Then get rid of any channels that have got stored in the 800s range
(those from distant transmitters). This usually makes it somewhat better,

If it still locks up, try a full reset from the service menu. Any
settings and recording schedule will have to be re-entered but it doesn't
erase the disk.

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Dave Farrance

Thanks for suggestions Dave.

The reason I suspected fragmentation was that 9200 worked perfectly out of
the box, and for quite a long time after (it is now over two years old).
The control lock-up came on gradually until, in the end, I was having to
switch off and on maybe 4-5 times in two hours (zipping through adverts).
The only thing I could think of that had changed over time was a) disc
filling up and b) fragmentation. I didn't consider the gradually increasing
number of channels available.

I have now strippd out all the "rubbish" and am down to a small bag of
channels. I haven't done any long watching sessions yet, but I get the
impression that the lock-ups may just have gone. Three cheers if they have.


The time to populate the EPG is still laughable. I need to switch on 15
minutes early to do any pogramming. Sorry to harp on about the Sony 870,
but that populates virtually instantaneously, almost before I have time to
press the button on the remote. It can be done.

Another big gripe with the Humax is the editing. With the Sony, I can edit
out adverts to +/- 0.5 seconds, with the Humax it is to the nearest minute.
This means that if I have recorded a programme that I wish to archive to a
DVD, I need to copy it to the Sony HDD, do the surgery on the adverts and
then dub it to disc. Am I missing a trick?

I get the distinct impression that the Humax was designed in a hurry, rushed
onto the market and then lost interest in.

I'm saving up for a second Sony. Someone in the family will love the Humax,
but not me!

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/124340080.aspx

Update on previous post.
Used Humax last night for a couple of hours. Only locked up twice so, a
considerable improvement.
Maybe I need to delete more channels.

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/124340080.aspx

Gerald Aves wrote:
Update on previous post.
Used Humax last night for a couple of hours. Only locked up twice so, a
considerable improvement.
Maybe I need to delete more channels.

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/124340080.aspx

I cleared out the majority of the channels on my 9200T at the weekend. That
sorted out the slow response to the remote. Well, it did for a couple of
days, but I'm starting to see the same problem again. :-(

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Jeff

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:25:58 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

Hi

I was wondering if anyone else has had the same issues as me and what if
any solutions are there. I've a 1 year old Humax 9200 and recently the
controls have taken to locking up either for a number of seconds or in
rare cases completely. These seems to happen mostly when fast forward
or backwarding a program when the time display freezes and the machine
won't respond to input either on the remote or the front panel. Other
times however its during normal playback. The playback itself continues
without any issues but its impossible to change channel, set the volume
or do anything until its sorted itself out internally. Also even when its
not freezing I've noticed that its become very slow to respond to input
taking up to a second to deal with keys being pressed. Googling around
other people have had similar issues but not the exact problems I've had.

My Humax 9200T has never locked up like that -- at least not until last
night soon after I'd read your message! Spooky.


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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:08:34 +0800, "Gerald
wrote:


I get the distinct impression that the Humax was designed in a hurry, rushed
onto the market and then lost interest in.

Wouldn't say the Humax Fox STB was designed in a hurry, but they
certainly lost interest in it. The 'lack of programme info', once the
EPG had populated was never fixed, despite a series of promises.

Shortcomings in the 9200, plus the lack of a user manual with recent
purchases has made me now look elsewhere.

Get your act together Hummy - or else!

GrahamC

Jeff Layman wrote:
Gerald Aves wrote:
Update on previous post.
Used Humax last night for a couple of hours. Only locked up twice so, a
considerable improvement.
Maybe I need to delete more channels.

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/124340080.aspx

I cleared out the majority of the channels on my 9200T at the weekend.
That sorted out the slow response to the remote. Well, it did for a
couple of days, but I'm starting to see the same problem again. :-(

Just got an email from Humax stating that an OTA update will be available
for the 9200T in the next few weeks to deal with this problem. That's good
customer service for a 3-year old PVR.

--
Jeff