No DVB-T2 receivers in time for Christmas

Graham Murray wrote:
(Brian Mc) writes:

Gary wrote:
: Freeview usb tuners do HD so it says on the website

NOT in the UK they don't! Many existing DTT tuners (and IDTVs) can do the HD
common on *other* EU countries (DVB-T/MPEG4). None can do DVB-T2 yet!

Surely all the 'tuner' needs to be able to do is receive the signal on
the appropriate frequency and with the correct bandwidth and de-modulate
it (into a bitstream containing the MUX in these cases).

No, I have it on good authority that DVB-T2 cannot be 'software decoded'
using the hardware of existing DVB-T1 receivers.

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Mark
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"Brian Mc" wrote in message
...
Graham Murray wrote:
:
: : Freeview usb tuners do HD so it says on the website
:
: NOT in the UK they don't! Many existing DTT tuners (and IDTVs) can do
the HD
: common on *other* EU countries (DVB-T/MPEG4). None can do DVB-T2 yet!


IIRC there were some PC cards (or USB?) that could receive the HD test
transmissions. What happened to these?

Did the test transmissions use T1 or T2?


--
Michael Chare

Mark Carver wrote:
Graham Murray wrote:
(Brian Mc) writes:

Gary wrote:
: Freeview usb tuners do HD so it says on the website
NOT in the UK they don't! Many existing DTT tuners (and IDTVs) can do
the HD
common on *other* EU countries (DVB-T/MPEG4). None can do DVB-T2 yet!

Surely all the 'tuner' needs to be able to do is receive the signal on
the appropriate frequency and with the correct bandwidth and de-modulate
it (into a bitstream containing the MUX in these cases).

No, I have it on good authority that DVB-T2 cannot be 'software decoded'
using the hardware of existing DVB-T1 receivers.

An even higher authority has just pointed out to me, that I'm wrong !

http://www.dektec.com/Products/PCIe/...5-T2/index.asp

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Mark
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On 20/11/09 11:32, Mark Carver wrote:

http://www.dektec.com/Products/PCIe/...5-T2/index.asp

If only I didn't receive from Waltham which will only have T2 in 2011,
I'd rush out and get one for my myth box, price no object!

Michael Chare wrote:
: IIRC there were some PC cards (or USB?) that could receive the HD test
: transmissions. What happened to these?

Yes - I actually have a Nebula DigiTV PCI card in my PC - the software for
this is called DigiTV-HD - BUT it still won't receive the new Freeview HD!

DVB-T2 was only finalised earlier this year and these trials (in 2006?)
used DVB-T/MPEG4

In message , Andy
Burns writes
On 20/11/09 11:32, Mark Carver wrote:

http://www.dektec.com/Products/PCIe/...5-T2/index.asp

If only I didn't receive from Waltham which will only have T2 in 2011,
I'd rush out and get one for my myth box, price no object!

At only € 2.495, it's a snip!
--
Ian

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:19:04 +0000, Michael Chare wrote:

"Brian Mc" wrote in message

IIRC there were some PC cards (or USB?) that could receive the HD test
transmissions. What happened to these?

Did the test transmissions use T1 or T2?

Those were DVB-T, not DVB-T2. So for the test transmissions, you could
use a standard USB Freeview tuner stick and decode in software (but not
in real time, I recall reading).

Since we're going to be the only country with DVB-T2 for a while, any HD
tuner is likely to be expensive.

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Andy
Burns writes
On 20/11/09 11:32, Mark Carver wrote:

http://www.dektec.com/Products/PCIe/...5-T2/index.asp

If only I didn't receive from Waltham which will only have T2 in 2011,
I'd rush out and get one for my myth box, price no object!

At only € 2.495, it's a snip!

Indeed, and at current exchange rates is not far off that value in UKP !

--
Mark
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On 20 Nov., 12:38, Andy Burns wrote:
On 20/11/09 11:32, Mark Carver wrote:

http://www.dektec.com/Products/PCIe/...5-T2/index.asp

If only I didn't receive from Waltham which will only have T2 in 2011,
I'd rush out and get one for my myth box, price no object!

This is a low volume prof product -
has no relation to any consumer products.

Lars

On 20/11/09 13:18, reslfj wrote:
On 20 Nov., 12:38, Andy wrote:
On 20/11/09 11:32, Mark Carver wrote:

http://www.dektec.com/Products/PCIe/...5-T2/index.asp

If only I didn't receive from Waltham which will only have T2 in 2011,
I'd rush out and get one for my myth box, price no object!

This is a low volume prof product -
has no relation to any consumer products.

I'm sure everyone is aware of that!