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Old November 7th 09, 09:14 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
jamie powell
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Default Philips DTR220 channel list problem

Since DSO1 at Winter Hill, my Philips DTR220 (software version 1.65.54) has
had a problem with its channel list.

When I rescan, the box refuses to retain any of the channels on pre-DSO MuxC
(formally on UHF60, but now on Mux1's old UHF56 frequency until DSO2).
It also lists the now-defunkt Mux1 channels in the 800s, and marks them with a
yellow N (presumably standing for 'Not Available').

I did a factory reset, which cleared the channel list, and then rescanned
again. This time the channels stored themselves correctly ....for about a
minute.... then I got a message saying "The channel list has been updated",
and the list reverted to its former state, with Sky3 etc disappearing, and the
defunkt Mux1 channels reappearing in the 800s.

I'm wondering therefore, if, when MuxC moved to Mux1's old transmitter at
Winter Hill, did they forget to update something, and is there still a
component of the pre-DSO signals which are continuing to flag the old,
now-defunkt Mux1 channels, along with the now-defunkt UHF60 version of MuxC,
thus confusing my Philips box?

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Old November 8th 09, 10:06 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Woody[_3_]
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"jamie powell" wrote in message
...
Since DSO1 at Winter Hill, my Philips DTR220 (software version
1.65.54) has had a problem with its channel list.

When I rescan, the box refuses to retain any of the channels on
pre-DSO MuxC (formally on UHF60, but now on Mux1's old UHF56
frequency until DSO2).
It also lists the now-defunkt Mux1 channels in the 800s, and
marks them with a yellow N (presumably standing for 'Not
Available').

I did a factory reset, which cleared the channel list, and then
rescanned again. This time the channels stored themselves
correctly ....for about a minute.... then I got a message
saying "The channel list has been updated", and the list
reverted to its former state, with Sky3 etc disappearing, and
the defunkt Mux1 channels reappearing in the 800s.

I'm wondering therefore, if, when MuxC moved to Mux1's old
transmitter at Winter Hill, did they forget to update
something, and is there still a component of the pre-DSO
signals which are continuing to flag the old, now-defunkt Mux1
channels, along with the now-defunkt UHF60 version of MuxC,
thus confusing my Philips box?



Could it be that the box is finding Moel-y-Parc in the first part
of its scan, then finding WH and getting confused?


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Old November 8th 09, 06:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
jamie powell
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Default Philips DTR220 channel list problem


"Woody" wrote in message
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Could it be that the box is finding Moel-y-Parc in the first part of its
scan, then finding WH and getting confused?


No. It allows you to set the range of UHF channels to scan, so I set it to
between 49 and 68.

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Old November 8th 09, 09:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
R. Mark Clayton
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Default Philips DTR220 channel list problem

Some Philips boxes (including mine) do not survive the latest update [on
Winter Hill].

Philips grudgingly acknowledged this and that the boxes can't be updated -
so it can go for landfill.

"jamie powell" wrote in message
...
Since DSO1 at Winter Hill, my Philips DTR220 (software version 1.65.54)
has had a problem with its channel list.

When I rescan, the box refuses to retain any of the channels on pre-DSO
MuxC (formally on UHF60, but now on Mux1's old UHF56 frequency until
DSO2).
It also lists the now-defunkt Mux1 channels in the 800s, and marks them
with a yellow N (presumably standing for 'Not Available').

I did a factory reset, which cleared the channel list, and then rescanned
again. This time the channels stored themselves correctly ....for about a
minute.... then I got a message saying "The channel list has been
updated", and the list reverted to its former state, with Sky3 etc
disappearing, and the defunkt Mux1 channels reappearing in the 800s.

I'm wondering therefore, if, when MuxC moved to Mux1's old transmitter at
Winter Hill, did they forget to update something, and is there still a
component of the pre-DSO signals which are continuing to flag the old,
now-defunkt Mux1 channels, along with the now-defunkt UHF60 version of
MuxC, thus confusing my Philips box?



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Old November 8th 09, 10:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
jamie powell
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Default Philips DTR220 channel list problem


"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
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Some Philips boxes (including mine) do not survive the latest update [on
Winter Hill].

Philips grudgingly acknowledged this and that the boxes can't be updated -
so it can go for landfill.


erm... it's a nearly-new box, with a July 2009 software release, and piles of
them are still being sold in supermarkets today.

In this (rare) case, I actually think it's the transmission which is at fault
(presumably something within the EPG data still flags the old frequencies).
There'd be no problem if MuxC hadn't moved location. (Although the phantom BBC
channels would still appear in the 800s, this wouldn't affect normal usage).

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Old November 9th 09, 12:59 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
John Aldred
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Default Philips DTR220 channel list problem

jamie powell wrote:

Since DSO1 at Winter Hill, my Philips DTR220 (software version 1.65.54)
has had a problem with its channel list.

When I rescan, the box refuses to retain any of the channels on pre-DSO
MuxC (formally on UHF60, but now on Mux1's old UHF56 frequency until
DSO2). It also lists the now-defunkt Mux1 channels in the 800s, and marks
them with a yellow N (presumably standing for 'Not Available').

I did a factory reset, which cleared the channel list, and then rescanned
again. This time the channels stored themselves correctly ....for about a
minute.... then I got a message saying "The channel list has been
updated", and the list reverted to its former state, with Sky3 etc
disappearing, and the defunkt Mux1 channels reappearing in the 800s.

I'm wondering therefore, if, when MuxC moved to Mux1's old transmitter at
Winter Hill, did they forget to update something, and is there still a
component of the pre-DSO signals which are continuing to flag the old,
now-defunkt Mux1 channels, along with the now-defunkt UHF60 version of
MuxC, thus confusing my Philips box?


My new Panasonic DMR-EX79EB recorder also seems to be having some problem
with the channel list since the DSO stage 1 on 4th Nov. I receive my signal
from the Lancaster transmitter.

I keep getting the message about new DVB channels having been found. I've
retuned the box about 6 times since 4th Nov, but still the messages appear.
The list of TV channels appears to be OK. I've no idea what the problem is.

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Old November 9th 09, 02:39 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill[_8_]
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Could it be that the box is finding Moel-y-Parc in the first part of its
scan, then finding WH and getting confused?


No. It allows you to set the range of UHF channels to scan, so I set it to

between 49 and 68.

Pity they don't all do that. I had another miserable whining git on the
phone this morning (Sunday!) telling me his BBC channels were breaking up.

Bill
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Old November 9th 09, 08:17 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike Tomlinson
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Default Philips DTR220 channel list problem

In article , John Aldred [email protected]
village.demon.co.uk writes

I keep getting the message about new DVB channels having been found. I've
retuned the box about 6 times since 4th Nov, but still the messages appear.
The list of TV channels appears to be OK. I've no idea what the problem is.


Try a factory reset followed by a first-time installation (not just a
retune.)

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Old November 9th 09, 10:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roger R[_2_]
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Default Philips DTR220 channel list problem


"jamie powell" wrote in message
...
Since DSO1 at Winter Hill, my Philips DTR220 (software version 1.65.54)
has had a problem with its channel list.

When I rescan, the box refuses to retain any of the channels on pre-DSO
MuxC (formally on UHF60, but now on Mux1's old UHF56 frequency until
DSO2).
It also lists the now-defunkt Mux1 channels in the 800s, and marks them
with a yellow N (presumably standing for 'Not Available').

I did a factory reset, which cleared the channel list, and then rescanned
again. This time the channels stored themselves correctly ....for about a
minute.... then I got a message saying "The channel list has been
updated", and the list reverted to its former state, with Sky3 etc
disappearing, and the defunkt Mux1 channels reappearing in the 800s.


Could the old channels be retained in a temporary memory somewhere ?
It might be worth doing a factory reset and then pulling the plug out to
allow power to drain away before restarting and rescanning.
Just a thought.

Roger R












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Old November 9th 09, 11:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
John Aldred
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Default Philips DTR220 channel list problem

Mike Tomlinson wrote:

In article , John Aldred [email protected]
village.demon.co.uk writes

I keep getting the message about new DVB channels having been found. I've
retuned the box about 6 times since 4th Nov, but still the messages
appear. The list of TV channels appears to be OK. I've no idea what the
problem is.


Try a factory reset followed by a first-time installation (not just a
retune.)


I had a word with Panasonic product support. They also suggested doing this.

I reset the system, this afternoon, to Shipping Condition as they term it,
and then switched off at the mains for a minute.
I then did the first time setup which rescanned and reset the channels.

Almost immediately afterwards the on-screen prompt appeared again inviting
me to retune !!

I spoke to Panasonic a second time. They have no solution apart from
suggesting that I take it to my nearest service agent (some 25 miles away).
I think not. I have turned off the on-screen notifications instead.

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