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Old November 8th 09, 11:41 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
Mike Tomlinson
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors


I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

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Old November 8th 09, 11:58 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors


"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

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You don't make it clear whether the connector you're trying to refit is a
belling lee or an F connector. Whichever one it is, have a look at the same
connector on another cable and do it like this. Saying that though, if it
fell out when you pulled it, it wasn't done properly in the first place.

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Old November 8th 09, 02:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the
folded back braid.

A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.


Guy
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Old November 8th 09, 03:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors

"Bigguy" wrote in message
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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the
folded back braid.

A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.


Guy


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Old November 8th 09, 03:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors

I think the type of connector which you have is a one piece screw on
co ax plug?
We use these all the time as they make a good contact and dont come
off easily.
(They are not that common though).

You need to treat them like F plugs. Strip cable as usual. Fold the
braiding back along over the outer of the cable. Don't forget to Kink
the inner wire a bit so it makes good contact in the inside of the
centre pin and then screw it on firmly. Of course it is better to
touch the tip of the pin and inner wire with solder afterwards but, to
be honest there is seldom time and kinking the inner wire makes an
adequate job.
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Old November 8th 09, 03:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors

Bu the way, it may be that the other cable is FM or DAB radio. Quite
often, if you are in a good reception area they both appear ok for TV
but one is really much better than the other. Have you got TV and
Radio aerials on the roof?
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Old November 8th 09, 04:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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In message , housetrained
writes
"Bigguy" wrote in message
...
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the
folded back braid.

A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.


Guy


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There's no substitute for proper foreplay


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Old November 8th 09, 06:42 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors

On Nov 8, 10:41*am, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. *At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. *They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. *At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. *(Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) *One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. *Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. *When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?



Belling Lee connectors dont normally screw onto the cable, so I wonder
just what youve got. Post a pic?


NT
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Old November 8th 09, 06:56 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
Mike Tomlinson
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors

In article
s.com, widgitt writes
I think the type of connector which you have is a one piece screw on
co ax plug?


Yes.

We use these all the time as they make a good contact and dont come
off easily.


This one did, but it wasn't screwed right onto the outer insulation.

You need to treat them like F plugs. Strip cable as usual. Fold the
braiding back along over the outer of the cable. Don't forget to Kink
the inner wire a bit so it makes good contact in the inside of the
centre pin and then screw it on firmly. Of course it is better to
touch the tip of the pin and inner wire with solder afterwards but, to
be honest there is seldom time and kinking the inner wire makes an
adequate job.


Many thanks.

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Old November 8th 09, 06:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.d-i-y
Mike Tomlinson
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Default Numpty question: screw-on connectors

In article
..com, widgitt writes
Bu the way, it may be that the other cable is FM or DAB radio. Quite
often, if you are in a good reception area they both appear ok for TV
but one is really much better than the other.


Ah, thanks.

Have you got TV and
Radio aerials on the roof?


Don't know. They are very high up and there's no room to see from a
distance (unless I want to get wet!) Was going to wander out with a pair
of binocs today but decided staying in and drinking beer was a more
profitable use of my time.

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