Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:46:55 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:

You might not find one: the commercial aspects would dictate if there's
a decent display nearby (?) it's not worth putting expensive components
on the box itself.

Quite possibly, I've yet to find one that has a display but more
often than not you have to go by the picture on the box as the one on
display isn't powered up.

As for no channel display on TVs or set top boxes it annoys me as 1)
you have to press a button to find out what channel you are one 2) if
gives the broadcasters a (weak) excuse to use DOGs.

This prompts the thought: is there any metadata in the SP-DIF datastream
you might use?

I was just going to grab the audio from the SCART, probably into some
old PC speakers...

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In article , Paul
Martin writes

Yes, Moel-y-Parc on E45 is a good enough signal in some parts of the
Northwest that it is being chosen by boxes in preference to Winter
Hill's BBC A MUX on E62. (A rescan will encounter the M-y-P signal
first.)

What's on E28? Picked up BBC1 and 2 this morning on that, but too
corrupt/weak a signal to be watchable. My box (Inverto 7000) paused on
62 for a think but rejected it.

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Mike Tomlinson

In article , Johnny B Good
writes

Does anyone know if the mux power levels from Storeton have already
been boosted at this early stage of the proceedings?

I don't know for sure, but a colleague reported this morning that the
signal strength reported by a STB fed from a loft-mounted aerial pointed
roughly in the direction of Storeton went from ca. 50% to ca. 90%. He
lives on the Greasby side of Upton.

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Mike Tomlinson

On Nov 5, 7:31*am, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article , Graham.
writes

and even I have lost
BBC 1 & 2 and whatever else is on the new WH MUX.

Retuned my Mum's Inverto IDL 7000 PVR last night and it won't pick up
the new BBC1 and 2 mux (is it 62?). *Other boxes seem ok.

What do I do now? *The firmware in the Inverto hasn't been updated for
years.

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Don't know if this is relevant, but I tried to rescan my Thomson
DHD4000 between about 6pm and 8.30pm last night and couldn't "see"
Ch62 (hence no BBC etc), despite my Panasonic TV and DTT card in the
PC both returning successfully. However, at about 10pm last night I
rescanned again and Ch62 mux was found successfully so all BBC was
restored. I'm a decent distance away, but have flawless WH reception
(have had for a number of years), so signal strength certainly
shouldn't have been a problem. I can't think of anything which would
account for this other than some freaky weather?

Matt

On Nov 4, 9:33*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

If anyone knows of a (cheap) DTTV box that has a channel number
display on it I'd be interested for use a radio.

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Can't think of a current one but maybe a shop somewhere has a
Wharfedale dv832 or Humax fox-T gathering dust, they both have channel
displays. I recently bought a Digihome ( Vestel) 80GB PVR from ebuyer
for 40 quid which also has a channel display. More functionality than
you need but not terribly expensive.

In message , Woody
writes

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
message

If anyone knows of a (cheap) DTTV box that has a channel number
display on it I'd be interested for use a radio.

May be wrong but I think the Humax FoxT2 has such.

You're not wrong, It has (and a modulator too).

I don't know if they're still available, but they weren't cheap -
typically £55.
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On Nov 5, 2:08*pm, Ian Jackson
wrote:

I don't know if they're still available, but they weren't cheap -
typically £55.
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As noted on this group a few weeks back Misco have been selling
'refurb' Humax Fox-Ts for 20 quid, none in stock now :-/. Maybe worth
keeping an eye on teh site as sometimes more stock turns up.

In article , David wrote:
I wonder if there's something wrong with my Humax 8000 then, as it's not
seeing any BBC channels since this morning, despite several autotune
procedures. It identifies them all, but says they're scrambled or not
available. My other receivers, Panasonic, Tvonics and Samsung, all behave
perfectly on the same (looped) aerial feed. Perhaps I need to use a bigger
attenuator, but if anybody has any more clever ideas, I'm interested.

Rod.

Same problem with humax PVR150 - need to reset it (delete all channel
info) and then autotune, not just scan for changes.

I've found that the box has actually tuned all the BBC channels, but they're
numbered from 800 upwards! It may be possible to get them back in the right
places by judicious use of attenuators and/or manual channel selection but I
can't be bothered until after the final reshuffle on 2nd December, as I'd
probably only have to do it all over again. Frankly I'm becoming more than a
little disenchanted with modern technology in general, and television in
particular. It's sad to see what a mess it has become.

Rod.
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If anyone knows of a (cheap) DTTV box that has a channel number
display on it I'd be interested for use a radio.

Plenty of Freeview boxes near the checkouts at our local Tesco.
Grundig Freesat boxes too.

Yeah, now read the question again, properly.

Wasn't intended to be an answer Dave. Just making conversation.

I had just been to my all-night Tesco for a bread in the Granada
region post ASO1 and noticed the timely promotion.

Bread wouldn't scan on the self-checkout. Operative came to help and went
away, when I pressed the "finish & pay button" it said my purchase required
autherisation (for a loaf?) At that point I lost patience, left the bread and walked.

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In article , Johnny B Good
writes

Does anyone know if the mux power levels from Storeton have already
been boosted at this early stage of the proceedings?

I don't know for sure, but a colleague reported this morning that the
signal strength reported by a STB fed from a loft-mounted aerial pointed
roughly in the direction of Storeton went from ca. 50% to ca. 90%. He
lives on the Greasby side of Upton.

That does rather suggest a 6dbish boost. At least the STB 'meter' was
dealing with low enough signal strengths for the boost to show. I think
most such 'meters' are designed to show variations in the low strength
region and saturate at a level that corresponds to the minimum level
required for reliable reception with sufficient margin to tolerate
modest interference levels.

It _does_ make sense for the 'meter' to saturate once you've got enough
signal for reliable reception and give indications in the range below
where it can usefully be used to help optimise antenna positioning to
maximise performance under low signal strength conditions and alert you
to developing problems with the antenna/feeder system in time for you
find a remedy before it fails altogether.

In any case, if you need to optimise the antenna system in a high field
strength area, you can always cascade 10db pads until the meter
indication drops into the 25 to 50% region and adjust from there.

In my case, I don't think the attic amplifier is being overloaded, just
the USB stick not being very good at handling moderately strong signals.

Incidently, the 3 way NTL splitter is marked -6db on each of its
outputs. I noticed this when I transferred the 10db pad from the USB
stick input to the splitter's input.

I haven't tried a retune on the desktop PC to see if ITV3 will reappear
but that is only of moderate academic interest anyway since, apart from
that, I appear to have successfully tuned all 6 muxes (something the USB
stick signally failed to do until I attenuated the signal).

TBH, I'm rather tempted to replace that fourway amp with another of
those NTL 3 way splitters now that I've seen just how strong a signal
I'm getting from the Storeton Tx. I'm pretty certain I've got a few more
left in my NTL bits box (Don't ask! ;-).

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