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Old November 3rd 09, 11:51 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Graham.[_2_]
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Default Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.

Can anyone tell me what time it is due to happen?
What should we expect, a period of blacks & syncs followed by carrier cut?
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Old November 4th 09, 02:51 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Graham." wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me what time it is due to happen?
What should we expect, a period of blacks & syncs followed by carrier cut?


Like Moel-y-Parc's BBC2 closure last week, the Winter Hill signal just cut-off
mid programme, with not a caption in sight, at 00:26.
There was a short period of low power beforehand.

A recording can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0PiP07Ye3w
(my capture card misbehaves at the end though).

The new BBC A digital signal came on air within 5 minutes.
The old Mux 1 signal continued to be broadcast alongside it until 00:48.



I sat through the horrid "BBC North West Tonight" programme yesterday evening,
to see if DSO1 was discussed (it was).
Amongst other things, the presenters managed to confuse today's DSO1 retune
with the switchover in the Isle of Man and The Lakes, which have already
happened.

Choice quotes:

On-Location Reporter: "...tomorrow they're going to pull out this red link,
and BBC2 analogue won't exist any longer. But that won't worry you, will it,
because you will have already retuned. Please tell me you've done it by now!"
Presenter1: "Yeah, we have! We had the man over this morning."
Presenter2: "My TV did it for me actually."

....and later...

Presenter2: "If you have more than five channels, you don't need to do a
thing".

....oh, and if you have a TV without a SCART socket...

Woman Guest from Switchover Help Scheme: "all you need is a Freeview box with
an RSA lead".


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Old November 4th 09, 04:08 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.


"Paul Martin" wrote in message
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In article ,
jamie powell wrote:

A recording can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0PiP07Ye3w
(my capture card misbehaves at the end though).


The new BBC A digital signal came on air within 5 minutes.
The old Mux 1 signal continued to be broadcast alongside it until 00:48.


The U link was pulled at 00:26/23 according to the CEEFAX header line.



If they just pulled the U link, wouldn't this leave the analogue transmission
still on air, in RBS mode?



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Old November 4th 09, 09:59 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.

Just watch for the pikeys driving off with the scrap.. grin.

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"Graham." wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me what time it is due to happen?
What should we expect, a period of blacks & syncs followed by carrier cut?
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Old November 4th 09, 02:20 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike Tomlinson[_2_]
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Default Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.

In article , Graham.
writes

What should we expect,


Lots of phone calls from elderly, deaf rellies.

"No, Aunty. Press the DIGITAL button".

"But we always press ANALOGUE and it works"

"Not any more, Aunty. The men who look after the transmitters have made
some big changes. You'll have to press DIGITAL in future"

"Oh. Why didn't anyone tell us?"

I didn't go down the retune route. I'm gonna take the phone off the
hook and hide under the bedclothes.

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Old November 4th 09, 02:37 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Graham.[_2_]
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Default Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.


Can anyone tell me what time it is due to happen?
What should we expect, a period of blacks & syncs followed by carrier cut?


Like Moel-y-Parc's BBC2 closure last week, the Winter Hill signal just cut-off mid programme, with not a caption in sight, at
00:26.
There was a short period of low power beforehand.

A recording can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0PiP07Ye3w
(my capture card misbehaves at the end though).

The new BBC A digital signal came on air within 5 minutes.
The old Mux 1 signal continued to be broadcast alongside it until 00:48.

Oh bugger! both my Vestel PVR80s won't even see a MUX on 62,
never mind decode it!
Didn't I read a post here about the Vestel boxes not coping with the carrier
offset and needing an OTH update? Currently 5.3(UK) and no sign of
a pending update.

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Old November 4th 09, 02:44 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.



"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ...
In article , Graham.
writes

What should we expect,


Lots of phone calls from elderly, deaf rellies.

"No, Aunty. Press the DIGITAL button".

"But we always press ANALOGUE and it works"

"Not any more, Aunty. The men who look after the transmitters have made
some big changes. You'll have to press DIGITAL in future"

"Oh. Why didn't anyone tell us?"

I didn't go down the retune route. I'm gonna take the phone off the
hook and hide under the bedclothes.


See my previous post.
I'm supposed to know a little about this stuff, and even I have lost
BBC 1 & 2 and whatever else is on the new WH MUX.
If it can happen to me, what chance has your maiden aunt got?

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Old November 4th 09, 02:56 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.

Graham. wrote:

Oh bugger! both my Vestel PVR80s won't even see a MUX on 62,
never mind decode it!
Didn't I read a post here about the Vestel boxes not coping with the carrier
offset and needing an OTH update? Currently 5.3(UK) and no sign of
a pending update.


Downloadable from he-

http://www.futaura.co.uk/vestel.html

Click on the '5.7', in the T810 Table

All you need then is an RS232 lead.


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Old November 4th 09, 03:28 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:44:30 -0000, "Graham." wrote:



"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ...
In article , Graham.
writes

What should we expect,


Lots of phone calls from elderly, deaf rellies.

"No, Aunty. Press the DIGITAL button".

"But we always press ANALOGUE and it works"

"Not any more, Aunty. The men who look after the transmitters have made
some big changes. You'll have to press DIGITAL in future"

"Oh. Why didn't anyone tell us?"

I didn't go down the retune route. I'm gonna take the phone off the
hook and hide under the bedclothes.


See my previous post.
I'm supposed to know a little about this stuff, and even I have lost
BBC 1 & 2 and whatever else is on the new WH MUX.
If it can happen to me, what chance has your maiden aunt got?



No Signal message for me on BBC 1 & 2
is anybody receiving BBC from Winter Hill ?
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Old November 4th 09, 03:29 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike Tomlinson[_2_]
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Default Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.

In article , Graham.
writes

If it can happen to me, what chance has your maiden aunt got?


My aunt isn't quite so maiden, she cooked me a mean fish pie last night.
Yum.

Even my Mum called me, and she's fiercely independent and highly
intelligent. She had the booklet from Digital TV and couldn't get
anywhere with either of her tellies.

Neither of them were aware of the switchover today. Very, very poorly
publicised IMO.

Nor was my colleague at work, who has watched TV via a bit of coax tied
to the curtain rail for years and years. Said to him just now, "how's
your TV picture?" His reply was "same as ever, excellent, why?" Not
tonight it won't be mate, was my reply.

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