Blu-ray players

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:36:35 +0000 (GMT), Bob Latham
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Sean Black wrote:
In message , David
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Grumps wrote:
Couldn't care less about WiFi.

You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,

Not if you connect with ethernet which is faster and far more reliable.

However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games
console, and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses,
including BBCi player, which means you can watch such content full
screen and on your telly !



Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?


The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.

It has a few others like

No DTS Re-encode.
No 7.1 analogue outputs
Noisy
Horrible games remote control
Ugly and then some.
Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.

Some of these could have changed with the latest version I've not checked.

But its horses for courses there is no universal solution but I think the
OPPO BD83 gets closer than anything else.

I should think the PS3's power consumption would be considerably
higher than a dedicated BR player.

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On Nov 3, 8:36*am, Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
* *Sean Black wrote:

In message , David
writes

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Grumps wrote:
Couldn't care less about WiFi.

You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,

Not if you connect with ethernet which is faster and far more reliable.

However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games
console, *and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses,
including BBCi *player, which means you can watch such content full
screen and on your *telly !

Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?

The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.

It has a few others like

No DTS Re-encode.
No 7.1 analogue outputs
Noisy
Horrible games remote control
Ugly and then some.
Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.

Some of these could have changed with the latest version I've not checked..

But its horses for courses there is no universal solution but I think the
OPPO BD83 gets closer than anything else.

But at £500 that's certainly at least £300 more than i'd be willing to
pay.

Sean Black wrote:
In message , David
writes


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Grumps wrote:
Couldn't care less about WiFi.

You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for
it, etc, However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games
console, and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses,
including BBCi player, which means you can watch such content full
screen and on your telly !



Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?


The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.

You can get some players that are multi-region for DVD and a few that
are for both DVD and BD, but they are definitely in the minority.
Have a look at somewhere like www.multiregionmagic.co.uk (no
connection, other than having bought a DVD player off them years ago,
but thinking of getting a multi-region BD player off them at some
stage).

All the multi-region BD players I've seen are about £150 more than simple
Zone B models, it may be cheaper to import a Zone A player from the US and
have one of each.
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:23:23 -0000
"Adrian" wrote:
All the multi-region BD players I've seen are about £150 more than simple
Zone B models, it may be cheaper to import a Zone A player from the US and
have one of each.

It does make me wonder if BD zoning was a genuine attempt to combat piracy
or just a convenient way to make a bit of extra cash for the player
manufacturers.

B2003

Bob Latham wrote:

Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.


That's an issue I've got with something else - an original XBOX
installed just for running XMBC.

At the moment it's very well hidden away when my young nephew visits,
for otherwise he'll soon be pestering for playing games on it. This (and
fan noise issues) almost invites me to consider recasing it in something
more suitable ...

.... but for the effort in doing that I may as well build myself a proper
media PC server.

Or the other plan is to leave it as it is so that when he eventually
sees it, those games on the XBOX will be so uncool he'll no longer have
an interest in playing them!

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In message , Bob Latham
writes
In article ,
Sean Black wrote:
In message , David
writes


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Grumps wrote:
Couldn't care less about WiFi.

You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,

Not if you connect with ethernet which is faster and far more reliable.

However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games
console, and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses,
including BBCi player, which means you can watch such content full
screen and on your telly !



Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?


The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.

It has a few others like

No DTS Re-encode.
No 7.1 analogue outputs

Route all my BD audio to my amp via HDMI, doesn't bitstream it (the new
slimmer version does, I believe) only downside to that is I don't get
the nice "True HD" or "DTS HD-MA" indicators lighting up on my amp :-)
Still sounds the same though, so no problem.

Noisy

I know a lot of people say this, but I must have got lucky, as it's
pretty much silent, can't hear it at all unless I go right up to it.
Maybe the fan isn't working ;-)

Horrible games remote control

I've got the BD remote for it, which is fine.

Ugly and then some.

Not bothered what it looks like.

Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.

It loads a hell of a lot quicker than the Samsung standalone that I had
previously, it plays everything I've thrown at it with no problems at
all (unlike the Sammy) and it's handy for streaming all sorts of
downloaded stuff too. Far from just a "kid's games machine" IMO.

Some of these could have changed with the latest version I've not checked.

But its horses for courses there is no universal solution but I think the
OPPO BD83 gets closer than anything else.


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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:23:23 -0000
"Adrian" wrote:
All the multi-region BD players I've seen are about £150 more than simple
Zone B models, it may be cheaper to import a Zone A player from the US and
have one of each.

It does make me wonder if BD zoning was a genuine attempt to combat piracy
or just a convenient way to make a bit of extra cash for the player
manufacturers.

That's exactly what it is IMO. A lot of discs are region-free anyway.

I'd thought about going the two player route myself, but it'd be so much
more hassle should anything go wrong with the Region A model and to be
honest, I doubt you'd get much for £150 anyway, especially if you have
to take import duty etc... into account.
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Bob Latham wrote:

The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.

It has a few others like

No DTS Re-encode.
No 7.1 analogue outputs
Noisy

Not particularly...

Horrible games remote control

Not if you use the blu-ray remote. It looks like any normal Sony remote.

Ugly and then some.

Well that's a matter of taste. There are too versions now as well.

Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.

Everyone I know with a PS3 is in their 30s...

Mark wrote:


I should think the PS3's power consumption would be considerably
higher than a dedicated BR player.


Depends which version you have, the new slim version is less power-hungry.

Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.

Everyone I know with a PS3 is in their 30s...

Great games machine - get Uncharted 2