Freeview Sux!

Freeview sux.

Before the re-tune the ITV and Channel 4 MUX was poor during winter time
(CH68), or more specifically when there was low pressure (who needs a
barometer. You could tell when it was going to rain because of the "no or
bad signal" messages, or the picture/sound would pixilate/break-up)

So, despite paying £400 for someone to run all new cables, new aerial, new
mast (bloody hell, I think I need lights on it so aircraft can avoid it,
it's so high up), masthead amp, clean line of sight, etc. It's still
rubbish and I'm not in a particularly remote area.

So, what do they do? They put Channel 5 on the same rubbish MUX! So, ATM I
can't get ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5. Nice one! If I were an advertiser,
I would re-negotiate the deal, because there are a lot of people who aren't
watching their channels because they simply can't. Ironically, the BBC MUX
is fine, even though they don't need advertising revenue.

Before concentrating on HD, they need to get their act together and at the
very least ensure that people can receive the five main terrestrial channels
OK.

Then, just to add insult to injury, Channel 5 decide that when you choose
the series link, you want to record every single episode of "FlashForward",
ever! Including every single repeat, on all their channels.

But wait, then Channel 5 also think that "Home & Away", "Neighbours" and
"CSI" are now movies by classifying them as "Movies" in the Genre field.
WTF!

Maybe if we can only receive two out of the main five channels now, we
should only pay 2/5 of the license fee!!!

/rant

Dylan wrote:
Freeview sux.

Before the re-tune the ITV and Channel 4 MUX was poor during winter time
(CH68), or more specifically when there was low pressure (who needs a
barometer. You could tell when it was going to rain because of the "no
or bad signal" messages, or the picture/sound would pixilate/break-up)

So, despite paying £400 for someone to run all new cables, new aerial,
new mast

And not a satellite dish instead?

--
Adrian C

"Dylan" wrote in message
...
Freeview sux.

Before the re-tune the ITV and Channel 4 MUX was poor during winter time
(CH68), or more specifically when there was low pressure (who needs a
barometer. You could tell when it was going to rain because of the "no or
bad signal" messages, or the picture/sound would pixilate/break-up)

So, despite paying £400 for someone to run all new cables, new aerial, new
mast (bloody hell, I think I need lights on it so aircraft can avoid it,
it's so high up), masthead amp, clean line of sight, etc. It's still
rubbish and I'm not in a particularly remote area.

Freesat might have been a better option for you ?

Roger R

Dylan wrote:
Freeview sux.

Before the re-tune the ITV and Channel 4 MUX was poor during winter time
(CH68), or more specifically when there was low pressure (who needs a
barometer. You could tell when it was going to rain because of the "no
or bad signal" messages, or the picture/sound would pixilate/break-up)

So, despite paying £400 for someone to run all new cables, new aerial,
new mast (bloody hell, I think I need lights on it so aircraft can
avoid it, it's so high up), masthead amp, clean line of sight, etc.
It's still rubbish and I'm not in a particularly remote area.

So, what do they do? They put Channel 5 on the same rubbish MUX! So,
ATM I can't get ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5. Nice one! If I were an
advertiser, I would re-negotiate the deal, because there are a lot of
people who aren't watching their channels because they simply can't.
Ironically, the BBC MUX is fine, even though they don't need advertising
revenue.

Before concentrating on HD, they need to get their act together and at
the very least ensure that people can receive the five main terrestrial
channels OK.

Then, just to add insult to injury, Channel 5 decide that when you
choose the series link, you want to record every single episode of
"FlashForward", ever! Including every single repeat, on all their
channels.

But wait, then Channel 5 also think that "Home & Away", "Neighbours" and
"CSI" are now movies by classifying them as "Movies" in the Genre field.
WTF!

Maybe if we can only receive two out of the main five channels now, we
should only pay 2/5 of the license fee!!!

/rant


It might help if you told us whereabouts you are. We could offer some
advice then.

Rob.

"Dylan" wrote in message
...
Freeview sux.

Before the re-tune the ITV and Channel 4 MUX was poor during winter time
(CH68), or more specifically when there was low pressure (who needs a
barometer. You could tell when it was going to rain because of the "no or
bad signal" messages, or the picture/sound would pixilate/break-up)

So, despite paying £400 for someone to run all new cables, new aerial, new
mast (bloody hell, I think I need lights on it so aircraft can avoid it,
it's so high up), masthead amp, clean line of sight, etc. It's still
rubbish and I'm not in a particularly remote area.

So, what do they do? They put Channel 5 on the same rubbish MUX! So, ATM
I can't get ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5. Nice one! If I were an
advertiser, I would re-negotiate the deal, because there are a lot of
people who aren't watching their channels because they simply can't.
Ironically, the BBC MUX is fine, even though they don't need advertising
revenue.

But you can get ITV3 and ITV4 better now. And E4 is better on E4+1 (though
not because of the change).

Before concentrating on HD, they need to get their act together and at the
very least ensure that people can receive the five main terrestrial
channels OK.

DSO is just around the corner, when most of the digital transmitters will be
increased in power considerably. See http://www.ukfree.tv/txlist.php

Then, just to add insult to injury, Channel 5 decide that when you choose
the series link, you want to record every single episode of
"FlashForward", ever! Including every single repeat, on all their
channels.

But wait, then Channel 5 also think that "Home & Away", "Neighbours" and
"CSI" are now movies by classifying them as "Movies" in the Genre field.
WTF!

I suggest you complain to Five about these issues.

Maybe if we can only receive two out of the main five channels now, we
should only pay 2/5 of the license fee!!!

The licence fee pays for the BBC, which you appear to get all right.

--
Max Demian

Hi,

What really sux is the person/company that you gave £ 400 to.

Did they specify this install would give you an acceptable signal before
and/or after DSO?. Did you ask them this?

I do share your frustration as my Freeview ITV etc. mux get blitzed by
co-channel interference under different weather conditions from a much more
powerful but distant transmitter and have discovered even more
frequencies/muxes will be affected this way after DSO due to the ****e
planning of post DSO frequency usage and relative power increases. (This is
Durris interfering with Knockmore reception on the North side of Tain)

On that basis have now abandoned FUView and gone with Freesat.

Regards
Illuminated
(if they cannot chain or buy ya then they try to crucify ya!)

Dylan wrote:
Freeview sux.

Before the re-tune the ITV and Channel 4 MUX was poor during winter time
(CH68), or more specifically when there was low pressure (who needs a
barometer. You could tell when it was going to rain because of the "no
or bad signal" messages, or the picture/sound would pixilate/break-up)

So, despite paying £400 for someone to run all new cables, new aerial,
new mast (bloody hell, I think I need lights on it so aircraft can
avoid it, it's so high up), masthead amp, clean line of sight, etc.
It's still rubbish and I'm not in a particularly remote area.

So, what do they do? They put Channel 5 on the same rubbish MUX! So,
ATM I can't get ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5. Nice one! If I were an
advertiser, I would re-negotiate the deal, because there are a lot of
people who aren't watching their channels because they simply can't.
Ironically, the BBC MUX is fine, even though they don't need advertising
revenue.

Before concentrating on HD, they need to get their act together and at
the very least ensure that people can receive the five main terrestrial
channels OK.

Then, just to add insult to injury, Channel 5 decide that when you
choose the series link, you want to record every single episode of
"FlashForward", ever! Including every single repeat, on all their
channels.

But wait, then Channel 5 also think that "Home & Away", "Neighbours" and
"CSI" are now movies by classifying them as "Movies" in the Genre field.
WTF!

Maybe if we can only receive two out of the main five channels now, we
should only pay 2/5 of the license fee!!!


Are you sure its your aerial and not the receiver or patch cables? Ch68
is right at the top, some tuners will be tailing off there, especially
the cheaper one with less quality control. I've seen one branded
'Phirips' or something.

Do you have the good coax from the new installation comming direct to
your digital receiver? Do you have more than 1 digital receiver, all
they all exhibiting the same issue?

The BBC mux is more robust in most areas broadcasting on QAM16, although
they will be changing to 8K QAM64 AFAIK.

--
Tony

Tony wrote:


Are you sure its your aerial and not the receiver or patch cables? Ch68
is right at the top, some tuners will be tailing off there, especially
the cheaper one with less quality control. I've seen one branded
'Phirips' or something.

Do you have the good coax from the new installation comming direct to
your digital receiver? Do you have more than 1 digital receiver, all
they all exhibiting the same issue?

The BBC mux is more robust in most areas broadcasting on QAM16, although
they will be changing to 8K QAM64 AFAIK.

--
Tony

Oh and some STBs have modulators that are parked on 69, and will affect
68 for everthing else down the chain and themselves to some degree as
they have a messy spectrum.

--
Tony

I think you miss the point, he is saying that where he is it ought to be
fine.

Brian

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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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Dylan wrote:
Freeview sux.

Before the re-tune the ITV and Channel 4 MUX was poor during winter time
(CH68), or more specifically when there was low pressure (who needs a
barometer. You could tell when it was going to rain because of the "no
or bad signal" messages, or the picture/sound would pixilate/break-up)

So, despite paying £400 for someone to run all new cables, new aerial,
new mast

And not a satellite dish instead?

--
Adrian C

"Dylan" wrote in message
...
Freeview sux.

A point which you have completely missed is that until DSO is completed,
Freeview is only in an interim state, and it is inevitable that there will
be some areas which miss out.

You might have to wait until things are completed before you can get a
satisfactory service.

Presumably you are trying to use either Oxford or Sudbury, unless it is the
low power transmitter at Keighley.