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  #31  
Old October 27th 09, 09:21 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Jerry[_2_]
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
snip
:
: Personally, I do agree with and like having some Gaelic
programmes on
: BBC1/2 and having coverage of the related history, etc. That
makes good
: sense to me. That seems to me to be better than giving the
topics their own
: 'ghetto' station.

Careful, the 'ghetto' argument is a very good one, so why do we
need more than three or four TV channels total? OTOH having
specialist channels can spark interest in a subject, for example
if I had to endure the biennial, puerile, Andrew Neil and "The
Daily Politics" I doubt that I would have taken so much interest
in politics as I have since having access to BBC Parliament
(which is in some ways comparable, ratings/popularity wise, as
the Welsh and Gaelic language channels are), the same could be
true for all sorts of specialist channels, why have "Film Four"
or "More Four" when it's content could be screened on Channel
Four, why have ITV 2, 3 and 4 when ITV1 could (and has, in many
cases) broadcast the content...


  #32  
Old October 27th 09, 09:50 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Jerry
writes:
for example if I had to endure the biennial, puerile, Andrew Neil and
"The Daily Politics"


I struggle to understand what you intended, I'm afraid.

Which bit of Andrew Neil only happens every other year?

As for puerile, he is often superficially light hearted, but
simultaneously incisive and challenging to his interviewees. He seems to
be a sceptic regarding the main parties (insofar as I can determine),
which is also a healthy state of affairs -- IMHO we have had gushing,
left-wing sycophancy from the BBC for far too long, and Neil, Paxo and
Eddie Mair all help to redress the balance a bit.

So I expect I'm in disagreement with you, but I still haven't really got
a clue as to what you were on about.

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  #33  
Old October 28th 09, 12:45 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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"SpamTrapSeeSig" wrote in message
. ..
: In article , Jerry
: writes:
: for example if I had to endure the biennial, puerile, Andrew
Neil and
: "The Daily Politics"
:
: I struggle to understand what you intended, I'm afraid.
:
: Which bit of Andrew Neil only happens every other year?

Same old trolls, if you really can understand what I was aiming
at you are not a very intelligent person, my dyslexia or not.

:
: As for puerile, he is often superficially light hearted, but
: simultaneously incisive and challenging to his interviewees. He
seems to

It's the delivery style, not the questions.

: be a sceptic regarding the main parties (insofar as I can
determine),
: which is also a healthy state of affairs -- IMHO we have had
gushing,
: left-wing sycophancy from the BBC for far too long, and Neil,
Paxo and
: Eddie Mair all help to redress the balance a bit.

But that is the problem, the presenter should NOT be showing
their own politics or opinions, TV [1] is becoming far to much
like the printed press with opinions being given as if they are
the facts, I do not want Paxman, Neil or anyone else
'interpreting' what Brown or Cameron etc. said, I want to listen
to it without comment and make my own mind up!

[1] and radio for that matter, Humphys on the "Today" programme
is always adding his opinions to the subject being debated/talked
about

:
: So I expect I'm in disagreement with you, but I still haven't
really got
: a clue as to what you were on about.
:

No surprise there, your normally so far up your own to find
anything but your own appendix!


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Old October 28th 09, 03:20 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Jerry
writes

Same old trolls, if you really can understand what I was aiming
at you are not a very intelligent person, my dyslexia or not.


So you feel the need to be rude, but not to explain why Andrew Neil is
'biennial'.

It seems that not only can I not understand what you meant or intended
(or whatever), but you can't understand my question either.

I don't think you need a cure for dyslexia, as much as a good
dictionary.

And for the record, I think it's the likes of Neil, Paxo and Mair who DO
interview fairly, not the other way around.
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Old October 28th 09, 03:34 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Java Jive
wrote:
Despite my having chosen to
have chequebooks where the cheques are printed in the Gaelic.


Blimey! Cheque books? I haven't written a cheque for years.

Bill


  #36  
Old October 28th 09, 03:37 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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"SpamTrapSeeSig" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Jerry
writes

Same old trolls, if you really can understand what I was aiming
at you are not a very intelligent person, my dyslexia or not.


You write perfectly well for reams, then explain a slip as dyslexia.
********.

Bill


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Old October 28th 09, 06:28 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Jerry wrote:
: for example if I had to endure the biennial, puerile, Andrew
Neil and
: "The Daily Politics"
:
: I struggle to understand what you intended, I'm afraid.
:
: Which bit of Andrew Neil only happens every other year?

Same old trolls, if you really can understand what I was aiming
at you are not a very intelligent person, my dyslexia or not.


I'd be interested to know what you meant too. On the internet one must
become accustomed to an extremely varied level of literacy, but this
one has me puzzled. I don't know what you could have meant, unless it
was "banal", which is suitably insulting and begins with b, though I
can't think of any more convincing reasons.

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Old October 28th 09, 06:28 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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In article , Jim Lesurf wrote:
The very Scots accent itself has been influenced by Gaelic.


Aye, that'll be right, pal. :-)

....And also by other languages, from English to the Northern ones. But
I don't think that means we need to have Scandinavian channels on
Freeview, does it?


I'd gladly have a general-interest Scandinavian channel in exchange for
any of the shopping channels.

In fact, let's replace all the shopping channels and plus-one repeat
channels with a selection of the foreign equivalents of BBC1. With
optional English subtitles of course. We have the technology to do this,
and I was always given to understand that the purpose of broadcasting was
"to inform, educate and entertain". It would be perfect, and it would
compete with the internet, which is surely what the broadcasters must see
as their greatest threat.

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Old October 28th 09, 08:28 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:07:18 -0000, "Ivan"
wrote:


"The BBC is preparing to spend millions more on BBC Alba, the controversial
Gaellic television station, as it seeks to boost viewing figures."
"Alba, which has lost one third of its viewers since it was launched a year
ago, could be made available on Freeview next year."

"Currently available only on cable and satellite, the channel costs three
times more per viewer than other comparable BBC offerings including BBC 3."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/6440138/BBC-is-preparing-to-spend-millions-more-on-BBC-Alba.html



How does the cost compare to that other money pit, S4C?

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Old October 28th 09, 08:33 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:32:31 -0000, "Paul S" [email protected]
wrote:


I must admit I don't see the need for this service - why should Gaelic
speakers have a distinctly different interest in programming terms than
other Scots? Surely if you want to provide a Gaelic service then using the
red button for an alternative audio track over the standard BBC Scotland
output should be sufficient - and for some programmes this might be the
original language of the broadcast with the English version as the dubbed
audio.

If the problem is that this service is too Glasgow/Edinburgh centric then it
is the programming that needs addressing not the language being used - and
living in Northampton and having Look 'Norwich' as the regional programme I
do understand this criticism.


S4C has a small (and probably reducing) viewer base. The channel's
main purpose these days appears to be to provide employment for the
Tafia in Cardiff. I suspect the same may be said for Alba.

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