Freeview losing two BBC streams

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:19:21 +0100, "Jerry"
wrote:

Yes, the on demand rolling headlines summery that the BBC is
planning to close, it can be a good half hour before many news
stories are repeated on the 24-hour rolling news channel due to
all the other crap and non news that they 'fill' the channel with
whilst the scrolling ticker-tape is worse than useless most of
the time.

Goodness. A whole half hour's wait for the news. How terrible.
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:50:40 +0100, Kennedy McEwen wrote:

Which brings up EXACTLY the same menu as the "Red" button does!

Not here. Press text on the TV remote when watching DSAT I now get a
black screen with some pages numbers but no teletext header of any
description (at least on the few channels I tried). Press "text" on
the DSAT remote does, eventually, give you the red button stuff.

Don't under estimate how silly Joe Public can be.

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
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: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:50:40 +0100, Kennedy McEwen wrote:
:
: Which brings up EXACTLY the same menu as the "Red" button
does!
:
: Not here. Press text on the TV remote when watching DSAT

****ing retard, try reading the thread, or even just the subject
line!

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:12:54 +0100, Jerry wrote:

: Which brings up EXACTLY the same menu as the "Red" button
: does!
:
: Not here. Press text on the TV remote when watching DSAT

****ing retard, try reading the thread,

To the great unwashed a text button is a text button. One doesn't
work. You don't even get instructions on how to get to digital text.
You did at one time.

With *lots* of people still watching analogue and being forced to
digital be that DTTV or DST it would be useful just to have 1 page of
teletext telling people how to find digital text.

or even just the subject line!

Thread drift. Happend all the time, live with it.

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
message
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: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:12:54 +0100, Jerry wrote:
:
: : Which brings up EXACTLY the same menu as the "Red" button
: : does!
: :
: : Not here. Press text on the TV remote when watching DSAT
:
: ****ing retard, try reading the thread,
:
: To the great unwashed a text button is a text button. One
doesn't
: work. You don't even get instructions on how to get to digital
text.
: You did at one time.

Err, what about that "Press Red" OSG in the corner of the screen
or the instruction book supplied with TV's or STBs, what do you
think should be done to inform people, a personal visit by
someone to the home perhaps?!

:
: With *lots* of people still watching analogue and being forced
to
: digital be that DTTV or DST it would be useful just to have 1
page of
: teletext telling people how to find digital text.

Irrelevant, if they can't find the "Red Button" (having read the
instructions) how would repeating the same instructions on
teletext help?...

:
: or even just the subject line!
:
: Thread drift. Happend all the time, live with it.
:

Except the only person who has drifted it would seem is you!

On 22 Oct, 21:18, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:50:40 +0100, Kennedy McEwen wrote:
Which brings up EXACTLY the same menu as the "Red" button does!

Not here. Press text on the TV remote when watching DSAT I now get a
black screen with some pages numbers but no teletext header of any
description (at least on the few channels I tried). Press "text" on
the DSAT remote does, eventually, give you the red button stuff.

Don't under estimate how silly Joe Public can be.

But for 99%+ of people, DSAT=Sky, and most people with Sky have lost
their original TV remote, and only use the Sky remote. So no chance of
them pressing "Text" on their TV remote.

However, with Freeview, there are lots of boxes+remotes where you need
to keep your TV remote handy - and that's exactly why Aunty says
"Press Red" rather than "Press Text" - to avoid the confusion you
describe.

And it's a fair point - in most other countries with digital TV
services, pressing Text on the TV remote still brings up teletext. The
UK is in the minority in that it's dumped "analogue" (VBI) teletext on
the digital service.

Cheers,
David.

On 23 Oct, 08:41, "Jerry"
wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
messagenews:[email protected] 1.howhill.co.uk...
: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:12:54 +0100, Jerry wrote:
:
: : Which brings up EXACTLY the same menu as the "Red" button
: : does!
: :
: : Not here. Press text on the TV remote when watching DSAT
:
: ****ing retard, try reading the thread,
:
: To the great unwashed a text button is a text button. One
doesn't
: work. You don't even get instructions on how to get to digital
text.
: You did at one time.

Err, what about that "Press Red" OSG in the corner of the screen
or the instruction book supplied with TV's or STBs, what do you
think should be done to inform people, a personal visit by
someone to the home perhaps?!

:
: With *lots* of people still watching analogue and being forced
to
: digital be that DTTV or DST it would be useful just to have 1
page of
: teletext telling people how to find digital text.

Irrelevant, if they can't find the "Red Button" (having read the
instructions) how would repeating the same instructions on
teletext help?...

:
: or even just the subject line!
:
: Thread drift. Happend all the time, live with it.
:

Except the only person who has drifted it would seem is you!

I object to the foul language and rudeness on this thread, it is quite
uncalled for and should not be tolerated.
For myself, I do read manuals when I receive new equipment but it is
fact that many people are actually quite averse to using them. In the
past it was simple to operate equipment but it has become increasingly
complicated. Equally when equipment broke it was often easy and cheap
to repair. I had a CRT TV that needed a new tube and it continued to
work until replaced by a Freeview set. In other words, it still works
after 25 years and one replacement tube. I have had to retune Freeview
twice since the summer, the CRT set never needed retuning. Increased
choices can bring increased complications and many people have a fear
of technology, they are not "retards" but they did have not grown up
with the vast technological changes, they have bypassed them and
suddenly they are becoming marginalised so that a new TV can be as
much a threat as a treat. If a button says 'text', logic suggests that
it means you would get text by pressing it, where as in reality it is
the button to remove text from the screen. Ceefax has had many fans
and is/was simple to navigate and exit and easy to read. Digital text
is just different and is located with that dreaded red button.
Just because some people can easily adapt to every technological
change they have no right to feel superior or to abuse other people.

"galaxyguy" wrote in message
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Oh look, it's another whinging Google groupie who thinks they are
posting to a (most probably, moderated) web forum...

:
: I object to the foul language and rudeness on this thread, it
is quite
: uncalled for and should not be tolerated.

Welcome to Usenet - don't like it, the door is that way ===
snip the rest of your ignorant whinging

Zero Tolerance wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:46:39 -0700 (PDT), galaxyguy
wrote:

BBC News Multi-screen is a very useful service and should not be
taken off Freeview. Are they serious? It is a service that anyone
from 11-90 could find useful.

The BBC already has a 24-hour rolling news channel. Is there anything
that cannot be delivered via the full spectrum television channel and
has to instead be hidden behind the incessant calls to "press your red
buttons now" ?


Well a very large number of people apparently watch the F1 forum after the
race. Another reason I can think of is that a rather irate friend of mine
rang up the other day complaining bitterly that he was unable to watch the
big snooker match on BBC 2 as advertised.. he can only receive Welsh TV
because of his location in Somerset.. as for some reason they had decided to
substitute it with an edition of Mastermind instead, fortunately I was able
to tell him to press the red button, which thankfully solved his problem.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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[ re BBC Three ]
:
: Well, they were thinking about it three years ago, I'm just
suggesting
: that perhaps it may have come back off the back burner:
:

Fair do's, but in that time haven't they converted BBC Three into
'TeensTV' anyway?

My 11 and 9 year olds wait for BBC3 to start at 7pm so they can watch Dr Who
repeats. As they're a bit old for being read to, I welcome this.
However, the TV gets switched off at 8pm, then the eldest reads and the
youngest goes to sleep!