BBC left wing bias in the One Show

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:18:46 +0100, "Norman Wells"
wrote:

It's called 'job and finish', one of the archaic industrial union practices
under which posties can go home and put their feet up as soon as they've
finished their round regardless of how little time it takes them.

Already abolished at the time they stopped second deliveries.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Woody wrote:
The side effect is that there is now too much for the postie to
carry in one delivery so much of the post, no matter when it
arrives for sorting, has to be left for delivery the next day,
and so a backlog builds up that they never have time to get
through. Conversely with two deliveries the postie could easily
carry the bag, and the bag for the second delivery was
consequently lighter and did not require a visit to every address
per se.

I've not seen a postie with a bag for ages - all trolleys round here.

ours comes on a bicycle with panniers.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Norman Wells wrote:
It's called 'job and finish', one of the archaic industrial union
practices under which posties can go home and put their feet up as
soon as they've finished their round regardless of how little time
it takes them.

Hardly an archaic practice - but one which promotes efficiency. But
perhaps you'd prefer to wait for your mail while the postie walks at a
regulation pace?

To be honest, the time at which my choice selection of junk mail and bills
arrives is not of any great consequence.

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brightside S9 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:36:17 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Norman Wells wrote:
It's called 'job and finish', one of the archaic industrial union
practices under which posties can go home and put their feet up as soon
as they've finished their round regardless of how little time it takes
them.

Hardly an archaic practice - but one which promotes efficiency. But
perhaps you'd prefer to wait for your mail while the postie walks at a
regulation pace?

Our local postie, when asked why the mail was now (from some months
ago) being delivered some 90 minutes later than he had delivered it
for the last ~ 10 yrs., said - he wasn't allowed to start his delivery
round until some certain time, which was 90 minutes later than he had
done for years gone by.

in the case of our local sorting office, the delay was to allow mail from
the bigger sorting office a few miles away to get on the one daily
delivery. Otherwise First Class mail would not get a 'next day' delivery.

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brightside S9 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:36:17 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Norman Wells wrote:
It's called 'job and finish', one of the archaic industrial union
practices under which posties can go home and put their feet up as
soon as they've finished their round regardless of how little time it
takes them.

Hardly an archaic practice - but one which promotes efficiency. But
perhaps you'd prefer to wait for your mail while the postie walks at a
regulation pace?

Our local postie, when asked why the mail was now (from some months
ago) being delivered some 90 minutes later than he had delivered it
for the last ~ 10 yrs., said - he wasn't allowed to start his delivery
round until some certain time, which was 90 minutes later than he had
done for years gone by.

That's already been explained.

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charles wrote:
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Woody wrote:
The side effect is that there is now too much for the postie to
carry in one delivery so much of the post, no matter when it
arrives for sorting, has to be left for delivery the next day,
and so a backlog builds up that they never have time to get
through. Conversely with two deliveries the postie could easily
carry the bag, and the bag for the second delivery was
consequently lighter and did not require a visit to every address
per se.

I've not seen a postie with a bag for ages - all trolleys round here.

ours comes on a bicycle with panniers.

Right. My guess is H&S prevents carrying sacks around these days. Plus of
course the volume is much greater than once due to junk mail.

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:42:33 +0100, brightside S9 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:36:17 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Norman Wells wrote:
It's called 'job and finish', one of the archaic industrial union
practices under which posties can go home and put their feet up as soon
as they've finished their round regardless of how little time it takes
them.

Hardly an archaic practice - but one which promotes efficiency. But
perhaps you'd prefer to wait for your mail while the postie walks at a
regulation pace?

Our local postie, when asked why the mail was now (from some months
ago) being delivered some 90 minutes later than he had delivered it
for the last ~ 10 yrs., said - he wasn't allowed to start his delivery
round until some certain time, which was 90 minutes later than he had
done for years gone by.

Round here our (bag carrying) postie has an SLA which means he *has* to
start his round at a given time. Even if the bulk of the mail hasn't arrived
from the main sorting office that day. That means we occasionally get light
days with only the junk mail and whatever arrived late at the local depot
the previous day. The next day contains the mail that should have been
delivered the previous day _plus_ what arrived in time for the delivery that
day.

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pete wrote:
Our local postie, when asked why the mail was now (from some months
ago) being delivered some 90 minutes later than he had delivered it
for the last ~ 10 yrs., said - he wasn't allowed to start his delivery
round until some certain time, which was 90 minutes later than he had
done for years gone by.

Round here our (bag carrying) postie has an SLA which means he *has* to
start his round at a given time. Even if the bulk of the mail hasn't
arrived from the main sorting office that day. That means we
occasionally get light days with only the junk mail and whatever arrived
late at the local depot the previous day. The next day contains the mail
that should have been delivered the previous day _plus_ what arrived in
time for the delivery that day.

Industrial relations at the Post Office have traditionally been poor - the
management treating the workers as skiving cretins. With the reaction from
the workforce being to trust nothing they say or do. They want their heads
banging together. ;-)

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