BBC Red Button

"Kennedy McEwen" wrote in message
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In article , Peter
Crosland writes

It seems to be a case of much ado about nothing. The TEXT button and RED
buttons do not act identically on all sets.

Name one that doesn't, for BBC TV!

If you read the first line of text on the page I previously referenced,
even the BBC admit they do exactly the same thing.

As for your complaint about the
DOG to get rid of it just press the EXT, BACK or RETURN button depending
on
you particular set or box.

Do you want another go, since none of those 3 work?

Clue: read the 3rd menu item on Page 9990. And it always comes back!


RTFM.

Peter Crosland

"Kennedy McEwen" wrote in message
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In article , Peter
Crosland writes

It seems to be a case of much ado about nothing. The TEXT button and RED
buttons do not act identically on all sets.

Name one that doesn't, for BBC TV!


Errm - my Netgem box doesn't - the text button brings up the 'press red' DOG
which I then press to get to the menu

Text will exit the red button stuff, red button doesn't
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Paul S

Non linear? Does this mean it logarithmic then?
I'd have called it textview myself.

Brian

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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:03:02 +0100, Kennedy McEwen
wrote:

I see that the BBC trust are currently running an Online Survey about
the BBC Red Button, prior to a review of this "service" next year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/consul.../bbc-red-butto
n/consultation/intro

Can someone please explain to me what the "Red Button" does that isn't
already performed by the "Text" button?

For me the "BBC Red Button" seems to be a completely superfluous feature
with no user benefit at all, just a rather offensive full intensity DOG
that irritatingly doesn't even stay cleared by applying the less
commonly known "Green Button" feature.

"BBC Red Button" is the name of the service, not the dog's name.

From the above link:

"BBC Red Button" is the name of the interactive TV services accessed
by pressing the "red" or "text" buttons on your digital remote
control. It is meant to provide continuous and constantly updated
news, information, education and entertainment service for all
digital TV audiences, offering interactive video, audio, pictures
and text. It should support and enhance some BBC TV programmes and
serve as an access point and a means of navigating BBC's non-linear
TV and radio content.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Non linear? Does this mean it logarithmic then?

Branching rather than in a straight line. The branches might include video,
still pictures and audio as well as text.

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Max Demian

In article , Peter
Crosland writes
"Kennedy McEwen" wrote in message
...
In article , Peter
Crosland writes

It seems to be a case of much ado about nothing. The TEXT button and RED
buttons do not act identically on all sets.

Name one that doesn't, for BBC TV!

If you read the first line of text on the page I previously referenced,
even the BBC admit they do exactly the same thing.

As for your complaint about the
DOG to get rid of it just press the EXT, BACK or RETURN button depending
on
you particular set or box.

Do you want another go, since none of those 3 work?

Clue: read the 3rd menu item on Page 9990. And it always comes back!


RTFM.

Page 9990 is TFM for the red button, bozo! And if you think the
equipment manual is going to have any information about BBC specific
DOGs then you are a complete looney!

As stated, your "advice" doesn't work, whilst the BBC's own advice (and
caveat about it coming back does), which makes me wonder if you
understand the issue at hand at all.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

In article , Paul S
writes

"Kennedy McEwen" wrote in message
...
In article , Peter
Crosland writes

It seems to be a case of much ado about nothing. The TEXT button and RED
buttons do not act identically on all sets.

Name one that doesn't, for BBC TV!


Errm - my Netgem box doesn't - the text button brings up the 'press red' DOG
which I then press to get to the menu

And once the "press red" DOG is on screen, what happens if you press
"text" instead of "red"?
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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J G Miller wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:26:33 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

Just rename it BBC 5, and be done with all that Red Button
gimmicky to access it (which you don't need anyway, just punch in 301).

Your suggestion cannot and will not be implemented because it is far
too sensible.

And rather than "5", rename it BBC Sports / Events and put things like
F1 and Wimbledon and the Chelsea Flower Show on it so that the schedule
on BBC-1 does not get messed up.

Of course there is a reason why this cannot be currently done, and it
is a political one. The BBC are not allowed to launch a new network
without special dispensation from the BBC Trust and DCMS.

Yes, and I guess that's the loophole by which the current 'BBCi' channels
are permitted, they're not 'channels', they're 'interactive' services.

Whatever, the BBC Trust, DCMS, and Ofcom all need to have their heads
repeatedly smashed together until some common bloody sense prevails !


On the BBC radio4 Media Show at lunch time today, Ben Bradshaw, the current
incumbant with responsibility for Culture Media and Sport said in a
politicians way that he is to abolish the BBC Trust - after a suitable
enquiry, of course. So that reduces the number of heads that need to be
banged together, but i am not convinced that any more sense will come out as
a result.

Roger R

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:57:49 +0100, Roger R wrote:

On the BBC radio4 Media Show at lunch time today, Ben Bradshaw, the
current incumbant with responsibility for Culture Media and Sport said
in a politicians way that he is to abolish the BBC Trust - after a
suitable enquiry, of course.

More deck chair re-arranging? It was the FauxLaboUr administration
which created the BBC Trust after sacking all of the BBC governors
as part of reprisals over the Gilligan affair.

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:03:02 +0100, Kennedy McEwen
wrote:

I see that the BBC trust are currently running an Online Survey about
the BBC Red Button, prior to a review of this "service" next year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/consul.../bbc-red-butto
n/consultation/intro

Can someone please explain to me what the "Red Button" does that isn't
already performed by the "Text" button?

For me the "BBC Red Button" seems to be a completely superfluous feature
with no user benefit at all, just a rather offensive full intensity DOG
that irritatingly doesn't even stay cleared by applying the less
commonly known "Green Button" feature.

"BBC Red Button" is the name of the service, not the dog's name.

From the above link:

"BBC Red Button" is the name of the interactive TV services accessed
by pressing the "red" or "text" buttons on your digital remote
control. It is meant to provide continuous and constantly updated
news, information, education and entertainment service for all
digital TV audiences, offering interactive video, audio, pictures
and text. It should support and enhance some BBC TV programmes and
serve as an access point and a means of navigating BBC's non-linear
TV and radio content.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)


FFS. "The Red Button" is attached to a piece of hardware that I own. It's
not the BBC's Red Button at all.

"Kennedy McEwen" wrote in message
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In article , Peter Duncanson
writes
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:20:29 +0100, Kennedy McEwen
wrote:

I am aware its the name of the service, but also one point of access for
the service, but that doesn't justify "Press 'Red'" being continuously
scrawled on the screen when the more common "text" button does exactly
the same thing without needing any graffiti.

The red button doesn't need graffiti either.

True, but you get it nevertheless.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when
replying)




"Interactive" **** is disabled in my Topfield.