Total Moronic BBC Scheduling

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:56:58 +0000, just another thicko wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:32:45 +0000 (UTC), Robin H
wrote:

Looks like Paul hit a nerve with that "runt" thing.

Duh yeh I bet thats wot every1 used 2 call him [1] at schewl, an quite
****in right to!

[1] or shud that be 'it', LOL!

And of course Jamie, the black belt will be another claim that you won't
back up because you never do.

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Java Jive wrote:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:17:10 +0100, Yellow
wrote:
A single repeat of a programme was canceled. The same show is being
repeated again later in the week, can be seen on IPlayer

The later repeat is the signed version, and neither it or the iPlayer
have the same quality.

Get yourself an HD box. BBC HD will be showing that series over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over again. . .

I think you're understating it.

Bill

Java Jive ] said:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:01:30 +0100, Yellow
wrote:

It is down to the broadcasters to transmit the correct signals and
sometimes they do and sometimes they don't - my PVR got the extended
BBC1 coverage on BBC1 so they must have at least have sent the stop
signal on time.

But I bet it didn't continue recording in BBC2 without further
intervention from you.

I was watching it so there was no need, but no, it would not have. But
while that would be a cool feature, I'm not sure that I have ever
watched a programme before (I love F1 but that aside I hate sport with a
passion) that has switched to another channel 15 minutes after it was
scheduled to end so I am hardly surprised the software has not been
written to cater for this situation.

Further it's a pretty that the majority of
people who set their PVRs to record Life or Gandhi would have got the
tail-end of the F1 coverage instead.

My PVR would have recorded nothing for Life, as it was not shown, and
would have got all of next next show, given that the BBC transmitted
correct start and stop signals.

The worst at this game seems to me to be C5 who cause series-link to
record every showing of their programmes, across all their channels
meaning you can end up with the same show recorded half a dozen times.

'Game' is one possible description, though 'mess' would have been a
better one. There don't seem to be any agreed standards which
everyone involved follows - the PVRs are all different, the
broadcasters often don't send the signals at all or on time, and they
don't respect their own pre-published schedules even when there is no
sporting event to overrun.

I find my PVR does a pretty good job and, except for when I want
something off C5, just leave it to its own devices using the auto start
and stop and series link. Very occasionally, and I mean very (1 in 100?)
I might lose a few seconds from the beginning of a BBC programme but
otherwise its (famous last words!) 100%.

Oh, it loses the very very end of This Week sometimes - just the titles
for some reason.

Out of interest, if there is something I really do not want to miss I
always make a point of checking I have the start *and* the end before I
miss the chance to record a repeated version or catch an on-line
viewing.

I have a Humax BTW.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:54:41 +0100, Mike Henry
wrote:

In , lid
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:16:39 +0100, Mike Henry
wrote:

In , lid
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:23:48 +0100, Yellow
wrote:

Apparently not, as the BBC have decided that BBC1 and BBC2 are the right
place for most sport for the time being even if that means bumping the
occasional popularist programme to show it.

Interesting that you chose the word "popularist" with its overtones,
rather than the more obvious and apt "popular" - since many more
people would have watched the scheduled programme had it been shown.

It was shown.

What was shown?

Eh? "the scheduled programme had it been shown" - your scheduled
"popularist"/"popular" programme being discussed that was bumped, ie
Strictly Come Dancing, was shown. It was delayed, but still shown. The
phrase "had it been shown" misleadingly implied that it wasn't shown.

The programme I was referring to was Life on BBC2.
Our family sat down to watch it at the scheduled time, only to find
three guys speculating for 40 minutes as to whether some sort of motor
race was going to happen.

Java Jive ] said:

In that case, why has it only recently been considered worthy of being
broadcast?

I have only watched F1 for 10 years and the qualifying has always been
shown.

In that case, why bother to run or broadcast the race at
all? Get real.

Why bother with any TV at all? Get a life.


On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:18:35 +0100, Yellow
wrote:

Refusing to take on board that qualifying is the key to the race does
not change the fact that it is. ;-)

Java Jive ] said:

Well, for one thing, it missed a few seconds, which might have upset
you had you planned to keep the recording. For another, you seem to
be very lucky in having a better PVR than most others. As others have
pointed out, other Humaxes not only failed to make the recordings but
at least one even crashed.

Neither of my PVRs would have recorded the programme intended. And no
PVR TIKO is going to cope with the F1 coverage being switched half way
through to a different channel. The BBC must have broken the vast
majority of their viewers recordings regardless of what they were
trying to record! I hope they're pleased with themselves, because
very others are going to be.

Assuming that the BBC sent the start signal, why would PVRs in general
not pick up the correct start of Gandhi? It was due to start at 8:30pm
and the F1 finished, give or take a few minutes in either direction, at
8:30pm.

A couple of reports here does not a summer make and you are a drama
queen so I claim my 5 pounds. :-)


On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:32:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:15:37 +0100, Java Jive
wrote:

I recorded Gandhi on a Freesat PVR using series-link. It started at the
start with no sign of F1. The only criticism might be that a few seconds
of introduction were omitted.

Java Jive ] said:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:17:10 +0100, Yellow
wrote:

A single repeat of a programme was canceled. The same show is being
repeated again later in the week, can be seen on IPlayer

The later repeat is the signed version, and neither it or the iPlayer
have the same quality.

So you want jam on it? But anyway, if people where that bothered about
the programme they would probably have watched or recorded the first
showing.


and will also
be available to watched again in the future when it is repeated over and
over and over again.

The most probable reason for that happening, if indeed it happens, is
that it's more popular

The reason BBC repeat shows they have made is because it is cost
effective.

than F1 Q'g, which, BTW, has only recently
begun to broadcast at all, suggesting to me that others besides myself
have traditionally taken the line that it doesn't make good TV.

We covered this elsewhere and you are still wrong as it, according to
another poster, has been broadcast for the last 13 years and for the
last 10 to my certain knowledge.

Noone
was going to win anything last night, the race was today.

Pole position was won by Rubens and Vettel lost his chance of the
championship so that's not bad all in all.

Consequently, there is no possible justification for such disruption
to the published schedules of two major channels as actually happened.

Well that is all a matter of opinion. Lucky then really that it wasn't
up to you and the BBC agreed with me.

The whole thing was a farce.

With respect, all this fuss over a 15 minute delay to a bit of dancing
is the farce.


Are you going to stop clutching at straws now?

I don't consider that I'm clutching at straws.

Again, you are entitled to your opinion.


F1 is a global sporting championship, where the winners names are
remembered for all time, or at least as long as makes no difference.

No they aren't.

Oh yes they are. :-)

No they aren't.

Yes they are.

At very best they're only remembered during people's
lifetimes. Hence my remark about the bucket of water, which seems,
like the water, to have closed way over your head.

Books, and now the internet, keep history alive. :-)


You may not remember who won in a given year but you *do* remember that
they won - that is the point. And even if you don't, there are plenty
who do.

No 'the point' is that as I *now* can't remember even which year,
*then* there would have been absolutely no point in wasting my time
watching such secondary ephemera as the qualifying. But in fact, I
couldn't have, because then it rightly wasn't considered interesting
enough to broadcast.

You can't even remember that it was actually broadcast so perhaps your
memory is not the best yardstick by which to measure all memories by.


Only thing I know about come dancing is that everyone took the **** out
of John Sargent a year or two back and that one of the fellas on their
at the moment was stupid enough to make a racist remark.

As few, certainly not myself, seem to be mourning SCD specifically,
but instead complaining about the disruption of other programmes in
the schedules, and people's recording arrangements of them, the point
of this remark is?

So you do not actually care that come dancing was delayed by 15 minutes?

Arguing for argument's sake. hmmm......

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
. uk...
Who was the MORON at the BBC who decided to schedule the Grand Prix
practice session on BBC1 instead of Merlin and now it's overrunning into
Strictly Come Dancing by 15 minutes

You'd rather watch ballroom dancing than motor racing? Is this you 'coming
out'? :-)

Z

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:02:37 +0100, "Zimmy" wrote:


"Agamemnon" wrote in message
.uk...
Who was the MORON at the BBC who decided to schedule the Grand Prix
practice session on BBC1 instead of Merlin and now it's overrunning into
Strictly Come Dancing by 15 minutes

You'd rather watch ballroom dancing than motor racing? Is this you 'coming
out'? :-)

:-)

Competitive ballroom dancing is a test of physical skill as well as
artistry. Try to ignore the ******ing sequins.

At least in dancing the competitors are visible.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

And Sunday the GP overran again, whilst they showed a recap, by 7 minutes.

Countryfile, despite starting 7 minutes late, managed to finish on time
for the scheduled 2010 Casualty. Does this mean the beeb are now
editing down following programmes to fit?

Richard