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Old October 6th 09, 05:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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It must be correct if the guy is banged up. How is it done?

Decoder boxes are mentiioned which rule out streamimg.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-24559449/
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Old October 6th 09, 05:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Arnie" wrote in message
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It must be correct if the guy is banged up. How is it done?

Decoder boxes are mentiioned which rule out streamimg.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-24559449/


The assumption is that the person had a valid $ky card and found a way to
use it to effectively create a "web enabled $ky card". A "web enabled card"
in a "customer" $ky box contacted the real card for the required
information. Presumably the $ky decoders were also cloned so that they all
appeared to be the same box as the one the real $ky card was programmed for.

It's quite a sophisticated scam and we discussed it a few weeks ago. I
conjecturered on a few ways it might be possible to thwart it but it's
certainly very clever, if highly illegal!

Paul DS.

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Old October 6th 09, 05:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Mc[_3_]
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Arnie wrote:
: It must be correct if the guy is banged up. How is it done?

From what I read it was a "card sharing" sort of scam where the perpetrator
had legitimate smartcards connected to some sort of server. The "clients"
had some sort adapter which obtained the expected smartcard responses to
their (bog-standard) STBs from his server (over the internet?) and fed
these in through the normal card slot.

One article said that he was charging something like £15/month and could
cut clients off if they failed to pay!

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Old October 7th 09, 12:20 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Brian Mc" wrote in message
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Arnie wrote:
: It must be correct if the guy is banged up. How is it done?

From what I read it was a "card sharing" sort of scam where the
perpetrator
had legitimate smartcards connected to some sort of server. The "clients"
had some sort adapter which obtained the expected smartcard responses to
their (bog-standard) STBs from his server (over the internet?) and fed
these in through the normal card slot.

One article said that he was charging something like £15/month and could
cut clients off if they failed to pay!




Cut off what???!!!


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Old October 7th 09, 01:01 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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JonC wrote:
: One article said that he was charging something like ?15/month and could
: cut clients off if they failed to pay!

: Cut off what???!!!

Their Sky TV obviously! The server was at his place. No Payment = no
codes to work that clients STB!
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Old October 7th 09, 04:42 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Arnie" wrote in message
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It must be correct if the guy is banged up. How is it done?

Decoder boxes are mentiioned which rule out streamimg.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-24559449/


It says a lot about British justice that this bloke when to jail when people
commit violent assaut or burglary and get off with community service. It's
about time the safety of the individual and the property of ordinary people
were regarded as being as important as the fortunes of great big firms like
Sky.

Bill


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Old October 7th 09, 09:40 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Cloning cards maybe?
Brian

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"Arnie" wrote in message
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It must be correct if the guy is banged up. How is it done?

Decoder boxes are mentiioned which rule out streamimg.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-24559449/


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Old October 7th 09, 09:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Could I respectfully ask that folk do not use dollar signs for the first
letter in in the word sky. I hear dolarky here.

Brian

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"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
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"Arnie" wrote in message
...
It must be correct if the guy is banged up. How is it done?

Decoder boxes are mentiioned which rule out streamimg.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-24559449/

The assumption is that the person had a valid $ky card and found a way to
use it to effectively create a "web enabled $ky card". A "web enabled
card" in a "customer" $ky box contacted the real card for the required
information. Presumably the $ky decoders were also cloned so that they
all appeared to be the same box as the one the real $ky card was
programmed for.

It's quite a sophisticated scam and we discussed it a few weeks ago. I
conjecturered on a few ways it might be possible to thwart it but it's
certainly very clever, if highly illegal!

Paul DS.



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Old October 7th 09, 11:23 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 6 Oct, 16:17, Arnie wrote:
It must be correct if the guy is banged up. How is it done?

Decoder boxes are mentiioned which rule out streamimg.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...s/2009/08/29/l...


"Mr Bennett said it was estimated that over six months Cairns had made
up to £5,000 in sales and subscriptions."

So less than the minimum wage then?

Sounds like this guy was just a re-seller. No hint that the organisers
were caught.

Cheers,
David.
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Old October 7th 09, 11:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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It says a lot about British justice that this bloke when to jail when
people commit violent assaut or burglary and get off with community
service. It's about time the safety of the individual and the property of
ordinary people were regarded as being as important as the fortunes of
great big firms like Sky.


Some believe sentences are about 'sending a message', others believe they
are for punishing wrong doers. Which is right?

As this case was about swindling a commercial organisation the purpose of
the sentence was to send a strong message to protect corporate wealth.

Protecting business is thought much more important than protecting
individuals because the whole economic success of the nation depends on
commercial activity whereas it doesn't matter to the nations economy if a
few ordinary people are wiped out. Putting business first is this
governments mantra.

Roger R



 




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