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Think I finally got to the bottom of this.

Found some info on the hauppage (SIC) website regarding problems with
their software having problems when running XP Serv Pack 2.

There was a link to microsoft's website giving a Hotfix to download
and install.

I did this and the Peak Hypermedia Software is now running perfectly,
it used to fail in a big way within 10-90 sec's.

The problem is seeminly down to:

"This problem occurs if a table section in the Program Specific
Information (PSI) table that is embedded in the digital TV signal
stream exceeds 255 bytes. In this scenario, the Psisdecd.dll
DirectShow component does not process the PSI table correctly."

Anyhow it certainly seems to do the biz, let me know if it works for
you John.

Regards

Steve

Link for the hotfix is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896626

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from Steve - Bluush contains these words:

Think I finally got to the bottom of this.

Found some info on the hauppage (SIC) website regarding problems with
their software having problems when running XP Serv Pack 2.

There was a link to microsoft's website giving a Hotfix to download
and install.

I did this and the Peak Hypermedia Software is now running perfectly,
it used to fail in a big way within 10-90 sec's.

The problem is seeminly down to:

"This problem occurs if a table section in the Program Specific
Information (PSI) table that is embedded in the digital TV signal
stream exceeds 255 bytes. In this scenario, the Psisdecd.dll
DirectShow component does not process the PSI table correctly."

Anyhow it certainly seems to do the biz, let me know if it works for
you John.

Regards

Steve

Link for the hotfix is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896626

Ok Steve, many thanks for the info. The file in question is part of the
directx 9.0c installation package (but an earlier version -
6.05.01.0900). The problem for me is that I'm running the pre-broken
version of winXP, win2kSP4 (or, if you prefer, I'm not running the idiot
son of win2k, you know, the one that recieved a lobotomy on explorer's
"open each folder in its own window" where the ability to intelligently
size the window of a virgin folder was removed).

However, a google search on win2k and psisdecd.dll took me to a gbpvr
forum thread referring to the KB article wherein the OP had the bright
idea of:-

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No, I just tried that... it won't install. However, if the update only
contains those 2 files listed in the kb article, maybe I can just try
the old regsvr32 trick on them. Guess I'll try and get a copy and try it
out tonight.

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And:-

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Ok, so I found a copy of psisdecd.dll on the net (version 6.05.2600.2180).

Searching on my c:, I found the dll in 2 locations:
c:\winnt\system32\
c:\winnt\RegisteredPackages\{AA936DF4-2B08-4B1F-B071-72192E287704}\

I went ahead and stopped all apps then did:
1. regsvr32 /u c:\winnt\system32\psisdecd.dll
2. copied the new version over the old one.
3. regsvr32 c:\winnt\system32\psisdecd.dll
4. copied the new version over the old one in the 2nd location.

After rebooting, gbpvr no longer crashes!!!

LiveTV (HD) is very smooth with 5-10% cpu usage using overlay manager,
but a little jerky with vmr9 (even though cpu doesn't go over about
15%).

I recorded a show, and playback was unwatchable inside gbpvr. I tried
vlc .8.6b, and playback of the .mpg file was perfect.

I don't understand why LiveTV would work good, but not file playback?

Oh well, at least I'm to a point where I can start mixing and matching
different codecs to try and get good performance.
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ENDQUOTE

This all seems encouraging. The KB you quoted only applies to WinXP SP2
(presumably, it's redundent for SP3). Unfortunately, I can't search for
that file on my recently SP3 updated test box on account I've got GBPVR
recording the Autumn watch shows (I managed to get GBPVR to work with
that dual tuner card, but only seeing it as a single tuner) and I don't
want to risk spoiling the recording.

However, a customer's laptop with SP3, curiously only shows an even
later version of psisdecd.dll in cab files but not anywhere else such as
the System32 folder. This seems rather odd that the file is present in
several update packs from MS but seemingly remains uninstalled. I'll
have a better idea when I can check my bog standard SP3 setup in a
minute or so...

After editing the recording to finish at 22:30, instead of the 23:30
I'd origionally set in my haste to catch the show (which _was_ scheduled
- damn this GBPVR, although it seems an improvement over the crapware
you get with the tuner cards, it seems to be badly broken in so many
other ways, it's just not real!), I was able to find the latest version
of that file in the system32 folder, plus the version mentioned in that
KB article in the SP2 cab.

It seems I don't need to download it from off the internet and I've got
an even later version to try (but I suspect that may be a version too
far for my win2k boxes). If this does the trick, I aught to be able to
revert back to DTVR and resume normal service.

Even though DTVR is rather clunky to use, it's a damn sight better than
_all_ of the alternatives I've tried (inluding the fabulous GBPVR!), so
I'll be quite grateful to be back to my (merely) annoyingly clunky TV
recording software and a decent measure of reliability (fingers
crossed!).

I'd say that the problem didn't arise in the UK until a change was made
to the broadcast stream on the 13th of September. Prior to that, the
psisdecd.dll worked just fine with its ticking timebomb of an untested
bug just waiting for the day of that change. Hopefully, replacing the
old version with the winXPSP2 (or even the SP3) version will fix the
win2k problem.

I'll let you know what happens ASAP.

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Think I finally got to the bottom of this.

Found some info on the hauppage (SIC) website regarding problems with
their software having problems when running XP Serv Pack 2.

There was a link to microsoft's website giving a Hotfix to download
and install.

I did this and the Peak Hypermedia Software is now running perfectly,
it used to fail in a big way within 10-90 sec's.

The problem is seeminly down to:

"This problem occurs if a table section in the Program Specific
Information (PSI) table that is embedded in the digital TV signal
stream exceeds 255 bytes. In this scenario, the Psisdecd.dll
DirectShow component does not process the PSI table correctly."

Anyhow it certainly seems to do the biz, let me know if it works for
you John.

Regards

Steve

Link for the hotfix is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896626

Ok Steve, many thanks for the info. The file in question is part of the
directx 9.0c installation package (but an earlier version -
6.05.01.0900). The problem for me is that I'm running the pre-broken
version of winXP, win2kSP4 (or, if you prefer, I'm not running the idiot
son of win2k, you know, the one that recieved a lobotomy on explorer's
"open each folder in its own window" where the ability to intelligently
size the window of a virgin folder was removed).

However, a google search on win2k and psisdecd.dll took me to a gbpvr
forum thread referring to the KB article wherein the OP had the bright
idea of:-

QUOTE
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No, I just tried that... it won't install. However, if the update only
contains those 2 files listed in the kb article, maybe I can just try
the old regsvr32 trick on them. Guess I'll try and get a copy and try it
out tonight.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ENDQUOTE

And:-

QUOTE
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, so I found a copy of psisdecd.dll on the net (version 6.05.2600.2180).

Searching on my c:, I found the dll in 2 locations:
c:\winnt\system32\
c:\winnt\RegisteredPackages\{AA936DF4-2B08-4B1F-B071-72192E287704}\

I went ahead and stopped all apps then did:
1. regsvr32 /u c:\winnt\system32\psisdecd.dll
2. copied the new version over the old one.
3. regsvr32 c:\winnt\system32\psisdecd.dll
4. copied the new version over the old one in the 2nd location.

After rebooting, gbpvr no longer crashes!!!

LiveTV (HD) is very smooth with 5-10% cpu usage using overlay manager,
but a little jerky with vmr9 (even though cpu doesn't go over about
15%).

I recorded a show, and playback was unwatchable inside gbpvr. I tried
vlc .8.6b, and playback of the .mpg file was perfect.

I don't understand why LiveTV would work good, but not file playback?

Oh well, at least I'm to a point where I can start mixing and matching
different codecs to try and get good performance.
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ENDQUOTE

This all seems encouraging. The KB you quoted only applies to WinXP SP2
(presumably, it's redundent for SP3). Unfortunately, I can't search for
that file on my recently SP3 updated test box on account I've got GBPVR
recording the Autumn watch shows (I managed to get GBPVR to work with
that dual tuner card, but only seeing it as a single tuner) and I don't
want to risk spoiling the recording.

However, a customer's laptop with SP3, curiously only shows an even
later version of psisdecd.dll in cab files but not anywhere else such as
the System32 folder. This seems rather odd that the file is present in
several update packs from MS but seemingly remains uninstalled. I'll
have a better idea when I can check my bog standard SP3 setup in a
minute or so...

After editing the recording to finish at 22:30, instead of the 23:30
I'd origionally set in my haste to catch the show (which _was_ scheduled
- damn this GBPVR, although it seems an improvement over the crapware
you get with the tuner cards, it seems to be badly broken in so many
other ways, it's just not real!), I was able to find the latest version
of that file in the system32 folder, plus the version mentioned in that
KB article in the SP2 cab.

It seems I don't need to download it from off the internet and I've got
an even later version to try (but I suspect that may be a version too
far for my win2k boxes). If this does the trick, I aught to be able to
revert back to DTVR and resume normal service.

Even though DTVR is rather clunky to use, it's a damn sight better than
_all_ of the alternatives I've tried (inluding the fabulous GBPVR!), so
I'll be quite grateful to be back to my (merely) annoyingly clunky TV
recording software and a decent measure of reliability (fingers
crossed!).

I'd say that the problem didn't arise in the UK until a change was made
to the broadcast stream on the 13th of September. Prior to that, the
psisdecd.dll worked just fine with its ticking timebomb of an untested
bug just waiting for the day of that change. Hopefully, replacing the
old version with the winXPSP2 (or even the SP3) version will fix the
win2k problem.

I'll let you know what happens ASAP.

Well, it seems that poster to the GBPVR forum was spot on! Although it
now seems I failed to make it clear that he was using win2k. My
apologies for not making it obvious.

The big point is that by using later versions of that all important
psisdecd.dll file that were only offered to winXP users, he managed to
cure the problem on a win2k system for which MS aren't prepared to offer
such support.

I tested this fix out on the laptop, mainly on account it still had the
Jetway DTVR program installed. I decided to use the later version that
appeared with the SP3 update rather than the one mentioned in the KB
article intended to fix SP2 versions of winXP which the OP used.

He'd used version 6.05.2600.2180 but I tried version 6.05.2600.5512
instead. There was an initial hiccup on account I had to remove the
Artec T1 driver and its associated application software before
re-installing the Peak Hardware USB stick tuner drivers.

After a few reboots, it all seemed to be operating perfectly fine
except for a slight case of lipsync on some stations (live viewing)
which made me decide on trying the earlier version on the desktop PC.

After prepping the desktop (re-install the Jetway PCI card and drivers
and applications), I suffered a similar error to the one that struck on
the 14th (the 13th was the last date I managed to record programs). Now,
this may have been some cock up with the driver installation but I
decided that the latest version was not going to be a version too far
after all, and also, quite possibly essential for a complete cure.

It seems to have done the trick. Although there does seem to be a
slight lipsync issue on live TV with some stations, I'd observed exactly
the same with the earlier version before it bombed out so am no worse
off in that regard.

Once again, many thanks for that pointer. Although the KB article
couldn't be directly applied in my case on account I'm using win2k, it
was certainly essential information for tracking down a win2k specific
solution.

As to _exactly_ how reliable this fix is going to prove, only the test
of time will tell. I'll post back in a few days or so to let you know.

--
Regards, John.

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