Let's compile a register of how well receivers retuned today

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:55:48 +0100, me9 wrote:

DONT mention Sony!!!

Why not?

I received a report that rescanning with the SONY VTX 800-U
was a very simple exercise, but of course favorites and station
re-ordering were lost and had to be set up again.

"Bigguy" wrote in message
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Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:
Try re-scanning with a -12dB attenuator in line?

Is that a +12dB amplifier?

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried
again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is,
the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button
to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.


This 3 yr old 27-inch widescreen LCD IDTV was evidently hobbled together
by someone searching through the skipped trash at Toshiba and finding a
TV grade LCD panel, a logic board from a PC display (complete with a
very comprehensive onscreen setup display (OSD) probably more often
found at home on a commercial / retail display flatpanel than domestic
or office) and a freeview solution (with it's own different OSD).

However, all this OSD stuff is unfortunately quite complex for the
non-tech owner, especially when swapping between ATV (VCR) and DTV
(DDT), and noting a billion other things to twiddle with (mostly badly).

The freeview decoder has an Automatic Tuning mode available from the
main menu. The manual suggests selecting this which should kick off the
automatic search to remove current channels replacing with new.

Nothing of the sort. It just sat there with the previous channel and no
messages whether something had happened or not. Someone casually doing
this 'retune' without the pictures in the manual may have assumed, 'oh,
so that's that - now may I have the coffee?'.

Scrolling down the main menu was the 'installation first time' option
which worked as expected.

--
Adrian C

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd
thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the
standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

Fringe Sutton Coldfield here, with good signal levels.

Panasonic LCD TV fine, old Panny TU-CT20 fine, 2 x Echostar T101 boxes (just
back from tweaking by Echostar) also fine.

Then the dreaded Humax 17" DTTV - fine except CH5 had no sound. Tried twice
more no joy. One factory reset later working fine. Odd.

On Oct 1, 4:08*pm, "tim....." wrote:
"Graham." wrote in message

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I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd
thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the
standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

Both my Vestel 80GB PVRs have ITV2+1 (33) *tagged as "ITV"
I'm on Winter Hill is that the same for everybody?
(can't be sure it wasn't like that before retuning)

I have this too, from Rowridge

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Yep, double checked the Vestel box here on Rowridge and 33 is labelled
ITV nut is in fact ITV2+1

In article , Jeff Layman
wrote:

Yes - similar problems with my 9200T.... (snip)

I have a Humax 9200, 8000 and F2-FOX-T. All behaved badly on an initial
rescan (Crystal Palace) so I rang Humax and found a recorded message
giving instructions:

1. Switch off at the mains
2. Unplug the aerial
3. Switch on and do a default reset.
4. Scan for channels and obviously don't find any.
4. Switch of at the mains
5. Reconnect aerial
6. Switch on and do another channel scan.

This is ridiculous and bad design. Two Sony TVs, an LG TV, a Pioneer
box, a Pace Twin and a fairly ancient Ferguson box all rescanned
perfectly. When I had an OnDigital box it handled similar rescans
perfectly well. Humax boxes are basically good and give good reliable
quality, but they do need to sort out the operational end. There must
be a number of non-technical and/or elderly Humax owners out there who
are extremely puzzled.

Winter Hill.

Daewoo SV900, picked up 8 muxes and 103 channels. Not noticed any
problems (need to check CH5 and the appearance of Quest). Noticeable
deterioration in picture quality.

Inverto IDL7000: picked up 8 muxes but only 102 channels. Have not
checked to see what the 'missing' channel is yet (or if anything's been
stuck onto 800)

Both on same aerial via an amplifier. Why would the Inverto miss a
channel?

--
Fred Bloggs

In article , Clem Dye writes

apparently it's a known issue. They've promised to send me a cam with a
software update on it that supposedly fixes the issue.

cam?

--
Fred Bloggs

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:21:34 GMT
Roger Wilmut wrote:
quality, but they do need to sort out the operational end. There must
be a number of non-technical and/or elderly Humax owners out there who
are extremely puzzled.

Its just another issue to add to the long list of Humax bugs. Quality control
at Humax must be a joke, assuming they even have any. When my 9200 expires
- and at the rate its locking up that probably won't be long - I have no
intention of replacing it with another Humax , I intend to avoid the Humax
brand for life its ****ed me off so much. More fool me for buying it to
replace an equally bug ridden FOX-T.

B2003

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:21:34 GMT, Roger Wilmut
wrote:

In article , Jeff Layman
wrote:

Yes - similar problems with my 9200T.... (snip)

I have a Humax 9200, 8000 and F2-FOX-T. All behaved badly on an initial
rescan (Crystal Palace) so I rang Humax and found a recorded message
giving instructions:

1. Switch off at the mains
2. Unplug the aerial
3. Switch on and do a default reset.
4. Scan for channels and obviously don't find any.
4. Switch of at the mains
5. Reconnect aerial
6. Switch on and do another channel scan.

This is ridiculous and bad design. Two Sony TVs, an LG TV, a Pioneer
box, a Pace Twin and a fairly ancient Ferguson box all rescanned
perfectly. When I had an OnDigital box it handled similar rescans
perfectly well. Humax boxes are basically good and give good reliable
quality, but they do need to sort out the operational end. There must
be a number of non-technical and/or elderly Humax owners out there who
are extremely puzzled.

This technical, retired, owner of a Humax Foxsat HDR was extremely
startled yesterday. I woke up the box from standby and it asked for
permission to retune to check for new channels, etc. This a completely
routine and harmless procedure so I pressed Yes and it did what it does.
All seemed fine until I looked at the guide and the channel list. A
large number of the channels were marked "(unknown name)". The box was
recording at the time so I left it until the recording was finished. I
then initiated a retune and that fixed the problem.

I'm wondering whether the box does not properly update its tables when
it does a retune while recording.



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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)