Switch off at the socket?

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:14:47 +0100, Paul Martin suggested:

for each half life, you can flip a coin for each
atom to see whether it will have gone off.

Or maybe ask Bill Wright to take one of his unwanted domestic cats
and put it in a box [I maintain that under such circumstances a black
box is more tasteful] with a single atom of an unstable isotope which
when it decays triggers the release of a poison gas in the box?

In message , J G Miller
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:52:36 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Contrast that with the UK where manufacturers such as MK
and Crabtree which invest in safety design manage to grab a larger
portion of the market than the dirt cheap low end manufacturers

That is if you are still able to find somewhere convenient that sells them,
eg B&Q last year stopped stocking MK products, no doubt because the profits
on lower volume sales were insufficient to warrant the potential cost of
shelf space etc which they took up.


Odd, I bought some MK parts at B&Q a couple of weeks back, I distinctly
remember because they were the same price as "brand x" so I checked the
stock numbers, which were different, in case they'd been put in the
wrong shelving bin.

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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Conversely, if you take a stroll around the electrical isles of Home
Depot (the US equivalent of B&Q), it is like looking back at the wiring
accessories we used to use in the 1930's.

Whenever I see most foreign, and particularly america, plugs it seems
so much that they haven't evolved past the two-nails-bashed-through-a
piece-of-wood stage, whereas the BS1363 was actually /designed/.

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JGH

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:42:54 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

Done again, ok now?

Yay! round of applause

You might want to tidy up the formatting so that the "Please always"
is not at the end of the "===" line, which looks rather untidy.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:57:27 -0700, J G Harston chauvinistically opined:

Whenever I see most foreign, and particularly america, plugs it seems so
much that they haven't evolved past the two-nails-bashed-through-a
piece-of-wood stage, whereas the BS1363 was actually /designed/.

For those who want to see whether the plugs of other countries really
are like that, or are in fact designed to a national standard, and even
trans-national compatibility, may view the photographs at

http://www.powercords.co.UK/standard.htm

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:53:02 +0100, Bof wrote:

I distinctly remember because they were the same price as "brand x"
so I checked the stock numbers, which were different, in case they'd
been put in the wrong shelving bin.

And why do you think the price had been reduced?

End of stock clearance.

B&Q do still stock some MK products but no longer the 13 ampere safety plug
or 13 ampere tough plug -- I should have made this distinction clear in
my original comment.

A search for MK plug on their web site reveals

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=mk+plug&x=0&y=0

no domestic MK plugs.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:50:31 +0100, Java Jive
wrote:

I've noticed from others' replies that someone contributing to this
thread called Derek is blocked,

A tragedy from which the world may very well survive, and a matter
which is of no consequence to me.

But since you are so ignorant of the simple everyday conventions of
Usenet I feel it is my duty to make sure that you are aware that is
generally seen as the usenet equivalent of sticking your fingers in
your ears and running round shouting -Nah Nah, na Nah Nah, I can't
hear you.

It is also generally regarded as bad form to kill file someone and
then afterwards, whilst skulking behind your kill file, to make a show
of telling everybody what you have done.


and IIRC possibly one other. Noone
making a major contribution to it though. But you say 'us' - you're
not blocked, and from what I can remember your posts have been more
even-handed than not.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:56:40 +0100, Paul Martin
wrote:

In article ,
Java Jive wrote:
You seem to living in another world. Noone here seems to be agreeing
with you at all.

You've obviously got a few of us blocked, then?

Derek

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:56:35 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

I'd must rather have such people f*cking the occasional windmill than
the occasional nuclear power station in a manner similar to THORP.

THORP is not a power station. In fact I don't think there is a
functioning, as in feeding the grid, nuclear power station at that
site now.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:59:10 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

No, others here in this subthread have been discussing electricity,
particularly wrt windmills, hydro, and nuclear. AFAIAA, you are the
only one sowing confusion by trying to widen the debate to cover all
energy use such as transport, etc.

It's hardly confusion, more natural extension.

If we accept the goal is substantial reduction in CO2 production then we
have to address all power requirements, not just the currently
electricity needs.

As we phase out gas for heating and cooking or petrol and diesel for
transport what replaces them. AFAIK electricity is the only alternative
either directly through wires & batteries or indirectly through hydrogen.

BW

In message , J G Miller
writes
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:53:02 +0100, Bof wrote:

I distinctly remember because they were the same price as "brand x"
so I checked the stock numbers, which were different, in case they'd
been put in the wrong shelving bin.

And why do you think the price had been reduced?

TBH I've absolutely no idea whether the price had been reduced or not, I
just saw MK at the same price as "brand x"


End of stock clearance.

B&Q do still stock some MK products but no longer the 13 ampere safety plug
or 13 ampere tough plug -- I should have made this distinction clear in
my original comment.

Having now taken a look
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=MK&x=0&y=0
seems like 'some' is currently around 170 MK products


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